Margarito without hand wraps. Would he have a winning record?

[..David..]

Margarito doesnt deserve the big pay days, he is a bum if it werent for that chin he wouldnt be nothing. STILL I admit he has great stamina too, so he would be able to beat some, but i dont think he would have been a world champ.

I am Mexican and i am ashamed of this guy, i hope he doesnt retire and they match him against some other good 154- 160 fighter, so he can get that eye pummeled into dust.

I would love to watch him get punished by Kirkland, Canelo, Martinez, Quillin, or many others.

[DiegoFuego]

Yeah, it's true that chins can bail you out in some fights, but you have to have SOME power. And so far, we've seen no evidence whatsoever that Margarito can hurt an opponent without plaster. The three meaningful fights he's had without it, all his opponents took his shots just fine. He didn't knock anybody down and he didn't hurt anybody. And we're talking about Cotto, who's been hurt plenty of times in his career. Mosley, Pacquiao and Cotto just walked through his weak ass shots and beat the crud out of him.

Oliver McCall's chin won him fights, but he at least had pop. Margarito has pillows for fists without plaster.

[jrosales13]

There would have been some slight difference, this is true. But truth is that when people say it like 10oz are pillows, it's only because they have been hit with gloves at all in their lives. Let's put it this way, Cotto was still doing damage, Margarito wasn't. IF his power was as damaging simply because he used 8oz before, he should have been able to transfer that power to a 10oz.

No one is saying 10oz are pillows here. And, Marg is heavy handed his power is not 1 punch power. His stoppage came from accumulation of punches wearing you down.

Cotto was doing damage do an already damaged area. Marg was doing his thing also. Is not like Cotto face was clean afterwards. But, his face and the damage could have been worse if it was 8oz.

And, like the TS said 8oz Cotto would have stopped Marg earlier because Marg was going in with a handicap(his right eye)

[BoxingGenius27]

Of course glove size matters. The bigger up in weight you go the bigger the glove size is. No one saying you can't get KO'd with 10oz glovez. But, you will do more damage with 8oz gloves no? Why don't you think HW's fight with 8oz? Because, they're too big and the damage will much greater.

If they were weighing 8oz gloves. Not only would Cotto punches affect Marg(eye) more but Marg punches would have affected Cotto more so than the 10oz did.

Again yes guys at 154 get KO'd with 10oz gloves all the time...But, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the difference of both fights.

Rosales, here's what I'm saying. As fighters go up in weight, the 2 oz difference should take care of itself. If you're a powerful puncher at 147 with 8 oz gloves, then you should be the same with 10 oz gloves at 153. If Marg was shorter, than I might see why he didn't carry his power. But Marg is a big JMW. I can't see why he wouldn't.

Given the fact that Marg could be considered a big JMW, I don't see how the extra 2 oz would have that much of a difference.

[DiegoFuego]

No one is saying 10oz are pillows here. And, Marg is heavy handed his power is not 1 punch power. His stoppage came from accumulation of punches wearing you down.

Cotto was doing damage do an already damaged area. Marg was doing his thing also. Is not like Cotto face was clean afterwards. But, his face and the damage could have been worse if it was 8oz.

And, like the TS said 8oz Cotto would have stopped Marg earlier because Marg was going in with a handicap(his right eye)

How can you possibly make that claim with a straight face? Are you laughing behind your computer screen? 3 fights with no plaster. No damage done to any opponent whatsoever. Heavy handed my foot.

Plaster naturally makes any hand heavier. Maybe that's what you meant.

[jrosales13]

Rosales, here's what I'm saying. As fighters go up in weight, the 2 oz difference should take care of itself. If you're a powerful puncher at 147 with 8 oz gloves, then you should be the same with 10 oz gloves at 153.

Given the fact that Marg could be considered a big JMW, I don't see how the extra 2 oz would have that much of a difference.

Not necessarily though because there are different types of power. There's the 1 punch KO power, there's the accumulation of punches wearing you down power, heavy handed.

Here's what I'm saying...You can't say well look Cotto face here and then look at Cotto face there...Boom he used plaster. Because, you will do more damage with 8oz then you will do with 10oz.

I mean obviously Marg power was still there. Because, again Cotto didn't come out clean in that fight. But, the damage wasn't as much because of the glove size difference. And, Cotto would have won regardless if it was 8oz because of Marg right eye.

[jrosales13]

How can you possibly make that claim with a straight face? Are you laughing behind your computer screen? 3 fights with no plaster. No damage done to any opponent whatsoever. Heavy handed my foot.

Plaster naturally makes any hand heavier. Maybe that's what you meant.

He did do damage to both Pac and Cotto.

Anyways, yes Marg is a heavy handed fighter. And, as far as I know he hasn't used plaster in any of his fights.

[DiegoFuego]

Like I said, when your opponent has no fear of your power, they hit you. A lot. They take chances to hit you. They laugh at your power and keep drilling you in the face. That's how you suffer eye injuries. That's how taking away plaster changes a career.

[americanbot]

anyone thats sane can see that marg cheated....the plaster made a VERY big difference. look at his last 4 fights. garcia, mosley, pac, cotto,


IN ALL HE LOOKED LIKE ****.


his eye was busted but in realty it wasn't so much the eye. his punches were so much more softer & none relentless............

THE GUY CHEATED........& i luv how trolls try & argue as if the plaster case is a conspiracy "well this isn't proof that marg cheated" no but him being CAUGHT WITH plaster is.........him looking like total **** after being caught with plaster is.........

[Deeznuts]

The most significant fight that showed he was using something was the Lujan fight...man he almost tore his ear off