Margarito without hand wraps. Would he have a winning record?

[120]

What's even more awesome is that Paul Williams ate plaster from this guy for 12 rounds and didn't even go down. That's ****ing awesome, though honestly it's probably screwed Willams' career up the way it did Cotto's for a bit.

It's in my opinion that it was right after that fight that the plaster came back. I say came back because Margo's power was either there or it wasn't. He broke the record on most punches thrown vs Clottey ans he was fine, then after the Williams lost (in which all he has was a swollen eye) his power was devastating until he got caught and then nothing ever since.

Not that he doesn't has power, of course he does. But is it the same as in some other fights? People talk as if there is no change just because Cotto has some facial bruises...this is absurd

[Baracka Flocka]

Seriously though the Margarito of last night would defeat many many B level fighters. I have no doubt about it.

Incredible Chin and Stamina, he would simply out will most.
Let's not act like Miguel walked away taking no damage.

But yeah I still no personal respect for Margarcheato.

[DiegoFuego]

Seriously though the Margarito of last night would defeat many many B level fighters. I have no doubt about it.

Incredible Chin and Stamina, he would simply out will most.
Let's not act like Miguel walked away taking no damage.

But yeah I still no personal respect for Margarcheato.

I don't know if I agree with that. Cotto always busts up. Look at the Mayorga fight. His face busts up easy. It doesn't mean Margarito did any damage. I saw maybe 5 good shots from Margarito all fight, and none of them made Cotto even flinch.

[mushahadeen]

This guy is a horrible fighter. No talent, no ability whatsoever. Can't even throw punches properly. No punching power. Lot of heart and incredible chin though.

I don't think that's fair.

Clearly, the beatings he took from Shane Mosley and then Manny Pacquiao took a lot out of him.

Your brain (reactions, punches, hand-eye) just doesn't work the same when you've been hit in the head as many times as he has.

[DiegoFuego]

I don't think that's fair.

Clearly, the beatings he took from Shane Mosley and then Manny Pacquiao took a lot out of him.

Your brain (reactions, punches, hand-eye) just doesn't work the same when you've been hit in the head as many times as he has.

I can buy the logic about the brain. That's proven.

But you also get hit a lot more when your opponent knows you can't hurt him as we saw with Cotto last night taking chances because he had no fear of Margarito's power.

If Cintron (big hitter), Martinez and many others don't fear Margarito's power (like Mosley and Cotto didn't), they probably light him up for stoppage wins too. That's how I honestly feel.

[jrosales13]

It's in my opinion that it was right after that fight that the plaster came back. I say came back because Margo's power was either there or it wasn't. He broke the record on most punches thrown vs Clottey ans he was fine, then after the Williams lost (in which all he has was a swollen eye) his power was devastating until he got caught and then nothing ever since.

Not that he doesn't has power, of course he does. But is it the same as in some other fights? People talk as if there is no change just because Cotto has some facial bruises...this is absurd

But, you don't think the difference in power in both fights could have been due to the gloves difference?

Seriously though the Margarito of last night would defeat many many B level fighters. I have no doubt about it.

Incredible Chin and Stamina, he would simply out will most.
Let's not act like Miguel walked away taking no damage.

But yeah I still no personal respect for Margarcheato.

That's depending on how his eye would of held up....People want to act as if this is proof that he used plaster for Cotto. 2 things they're not taking into account. 1 the size and style of the gloves, 2 his eye....We already knew that was a huge problem going into that would affect the fight.

[BoxingGenius27]

I don't think glove size matters.

Guys get KO'd at 154 all the time. Marg is a skinny 154'lber at 5'11. I don't see why his power shouldn't have carried to 154 like many other fighters that get KO victories with 10 oz gloves at 154.

[jrosales13]

I don't think glove size matters.

Guys get KO'd at 154 all the time. Marg is a skinny 154'lber at 5'11. I don't see why his power shouldn't have carried to 154 like many other fighters that get KO victories with 10 oz gloves at 154.

Of course glove size matters. The bigger up in weight you go the bigger the glove size is. No one saying you can't get KO'd with 10oz glovez. But, you will do more damage with 8oz gloves no? Why don't you think HW's fight with 8oz? Because, they're too big and the damage will much greater.

If they were weighing 8oz gloves. Not only would Cotto punches affect Marg(eye) more but Marg punches would have affected Cotto more so than the 10oz did.

Again yes guys at 154 get KO'd with 10oz gloves all the time...But, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the difference of both fights.

[120]

But, you don't think the difference in power in both fights could have been due to the gloves difference?

There would have been some slight difference, this is true. But truth is that when people say it like 10oz are pillows, it's only because they have been hit with gloves at all in their lives. Let's put it this way, Cotto was still doing damage, Margarito wasn't. IF his power was as damaging simply because he used 8oz before, he should have been able to transfer that power to a 10oz.

[DiegoFuego]

LOL, smaller gloves and Margarito doesn't see round 6 IMO.