Margarito and Cotto would have stopped JMM at Welter

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  • hugh grant
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    #31
    Before the 3rd fight with Pac, it was accepted JMM couldnt do it at WW, and now JMM did better than expected at WW against Pac, people are giving JMM credit for beating other great WW as well.

    But the reality is Pac is a small guy and just cos Pac can take the big boys punches dont mean JMM could all of a sudden. If Cotto and Margarito cant fight counterpunchers than you could make a case for JMM.
    But could JMM take the big boys punches.

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    • The MiZ
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      #32
      bull****. Marquez UD Margo at 147, and UD Cotto at 147. **** you TS.

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      • Bushbaby
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        #33
        Both stop Marquez, he's just too small. He did well against Pacman because Pacman is overrated & Marquez knew he couldn't stand & slugg with him. Cotto stood in Pacman's face & tried to outgun him & payed the price.

        But Marquez is not strong enough to fight those bigger guys. He did beat Pacman, buts that's as far as his welterweight run should go.

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        • VaginaPuncher
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          #34
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Before the 3rd fight with Pac, it was accepted JMM couldnt do it at WW, and now JMM did better than expected at WW against Pac, people are giving JMM credit for beating other great WW as well.

          But the reality is Pac is a small guy and just cos Pac can take the big boys punches dont mean JMM could all of a sudden. If Cotto and Margarito cant fight counterpunchers than you could make a case for JMM.
          But could JMM take the big boys punches.
          You're right. we won't know how he reacts to a larger opponent.
          but I feel that JMM's adaptability will come through if he ever fights any one of them.

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          • TintaBoricua
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            #35
            Originally posted by ChangoHater
            jmm doesn't go the distance with either
            JMM at 147 is not a prime JMM, but because of his track record, JMM deserves the benefit of the doubt.

            Never been KO'd, rarely on the verge of being KO'd (if ever), fights back and actually lands solid combos when hurt, THRIVES on aggression.

            Margarito would be huge compared to Márquez, but I think he'd tee off on Margarito left and right considering how intelligent he is. The man knows his boxing. This is assuming it were Margarito-JMM at 147, not 154.

            As for JMM-Cotto, I dunno. If it had been done back then at 147, it would've been interesting. A prime Cotto would've probably gotten a close decision or lost a close decision. The skinny version of Cotto that fought Clottey/Pacquiao gets beaten up by Márquez.

            No use making it now, though. Cotto nor Margarito can make 147 anymore. Way too long.

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            • gzgz
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              #36
              marquez vs cotto would be a ****in war but marquez edges it out an outboxes the **** outta margarito slow ass to a wide ud, marquez sodomise pacquaio 3 times bro.............

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              • Mr. Invincible
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                #37
                I know that triangle theories don't work in boxing but I don't agree. Jmm is way too savy to get stopped at this stage of his career.

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                • Exciterx30
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TintaBoricua
                  JMM at 147 is not a prime JMM, but because of his track record, JMM deserves the benefit of the doubt.

                  Never been KO'd, rarely on the verge of being KO'd (if ever), fights back and actually lands solid combos when hurt, THRIVES on aggression.

                  Margarito would be huge compared to Márquez, but I think he'd tee off on Margarito left and right considering how intelligent he is. The man knows his boxing. This is assuming it were Margarito-JMM at 147, not 154.

                  As for JMM-Cotto, I dunno. If it had been done back then at 147, it would've been interesting. A prime Cotto would've probably gotten a close decision or lost a close decision. The skinny version of Cotto that fought Clottey/Pacquiao gets beaten up by Márquez.

                  No use making it now, though. Cotto nor Margarito can make 147 anymore. Way too long.

                  I like your posts because you are objective, as am I. However, I don't think Márquez beats Cotto at any weight from 140 to 154.

                  I think this would be a very competitive, technical fight throughout the first half. I don't think Cotto will ever go to a fight with the mentality that he's stronger because the opponent is going up in weight. That mentality hurt him against Pacquiao. Marquez is one of the best counterpunchers you could find, but Cotto has a quick, well timed jab and, honestly, Cotto has better pure boxing skills than Pacquiao and he would not go at Marquez recklessly throwing from weird angles. Based on those factors, I see Cotto hitting him with the jab like he did to Yuri Foreman.

                  Eventually, Cotto would get to the body and would wear Marquez down. I don't see a one punch KO, but a late TKO is the most likely scenario for me.

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                  • Toyman
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                    #39
                    the maiin difference is that pacquiao has only beaten cotto and margarito once each,

                    whereas he has beaten marquez 3 times already

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                    • Mr. Invincible
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                      I have absolutely doubts in my mind that Marquez would beat Cotto. Margarito I am not so sure he can beat but Cotto he can definitely beat. Marquez made the number one p4p fighter and best welterweight look like a sparring partner so I doubt he struggles with Cotto. Cotto is flat footed, relatively slow, and only really has a jab and left hook. Cotto also likes to play the aggressor which falls right into Marquez's counter punching strengths. At the end of the day I got Marquez winning by UD.
                      Yea a sparring partner that beat him to the punch and outlanded him, lol.

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