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    #71
    Originally posted by Frank the Tank
    ..and Lacy cuffs his(on the occasions when he actually manages to hit what he's aiming for)
    and?
    are you trying to make a point?

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    • Cletus Funk
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      #72
      Originally posted by PBF34
      and?
      are you trying to make a point?
      same point you were making about the slaps?

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        #73
        Originally posted by Frank the Tank
        I don't need to justify the credibilty of any of those guys really, their accomplishments speak for themselves. If you seriously consider them mediocre then you've sold yourself.

        And if you consider them anything above meidocre, you've just shown how either biased or out right delusional you are.

        Calzaghe has never beat anything better than a meidocre fighter.

        Deal with it.

        I don't know the reason why he would be past his prime at 32 but his last 3 fights would indicate it. Maybe all the injuries? Maybe he doesn't live right? Tyson was past his best at 25 and Don Curry not much later than that.
        Both Curry and Tyson actually accomplished something in their prime before it was over.

        I don't know why this is so difficult for some of you to understand or accept: Calzaghe didn't have a prime, because he's never accomplished anything.

        All he had is what could be referred to as potential.

        He wasted that potential fighting soft opposition being sheltered, never grew, never had a career defining fight, and that's why he's regarded with such indifference.

        It's hard to understand why that troubles some of you the way it does.

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          #74
          No, noooo Bozo, please tell me you're not trying to bend the English language to fit your argument. Hehehe... so a fighter's prime isn't the period in which he's considered to be at his physical and mental peak now, eh? Interesting....

          If those fighters are mediocre then I guess Ray Robinson's only very good, Hagler's ok and Tyson's poor at best in your eyes? You must think Lacy's appalling then.

          It doesn't bother me at all, it just amuses me to wach bitter and twisted xenophobes trying to explain their rants. Your arguments would even have a modicum of substance if you weren't trying to use them to belittle JC in relation to Lacy. Again, tell me how your points on standard of opposition don't apply even more so to Lacy please.

          Could you give me a bit more on the direct corrolation between a fighters achievemnets and their ability to sustain a physical prime please, this bit really interests me.
          Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
          And if you consider them anything above meidocre, you've just shown how either biased or out right delusional you are.

          Calzaghe has never beat anything better than a meidocre fighter.

          Deal with it.



          Both Curry and Tyson actually accomplished something in their prime before it was over.

          I don't know why this is so difficult for some of you to understand or accept: Calzaghe didn't have a prime, because he's never accomplished anything.

          All he had is what could be referred to as potential.

          He wasted that potential fighting soft opposition being sheltered, never grew, never had a career defining fight, and that's why he's regarded with such indifference.

          It's hard to understand why that troubles some of you the way it does.

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            #75
            Come off it man, by that logic, Reggie Strickland has a "prime".

            All your huffing and puffing doens't change the fact that Joe Calzaghe is a sheltered unproven fighter who (you've admitted) has wasted his career.

            Stop trying to sugar coat it to make yourself feel better.

            They guy fought meidocre opposition, has never proven himself, and now at 32, has the handfull of people who cheer for him making excuses for how he's a shadow of his former self.

            And did I see you spin Ray Robinson's name into your non sense?

            You just keep getting more and more laughable.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Frank the Tank
              same point you were making about the slaps?
              you cant hurt someone by slapping at them

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                #77
                It's not my logic dude, it's the generally accepted definition of a prime.

                Tell me why you think Lacy's so great if you apply your reasoning to his level of competition. Surely an IBF champion with 4 defences should have fought someone decent by now? Calzaghe's resume at 28 years old makes Lacy's look laughable.

                Yes I did bring SRR into and it's clear for everyone to see the context in which he was used. Hagler too if you didn't notice.

                How's that hypocracy working out for you?


                Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                Come off it man, by that logic, Reggie Strickland has a "prime".

                All your huffing and puffing doens't change the fact that Joe Calzaghe is a sheltered unproven fighter who (you've admitted) has wasted his career.

                Stop trying to sugar coat it to make yourself feel better.

                They guy fought meidocre opposition, has never proven himself, and now at 32, has the handfull of people who cheer for him making excuses for how he's a shadow of his former self.

                And did I see you spin Ray Robinson's name into your non sense?

                You just keep getting more and more laughable.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by PBF34
                  you cant hurt someone by slapping at them
                  Lacy's not really hurting guys with his cuffs either. The guys he's stopped were generally still perfectly lucid when the ref stepped in.
                  Last edited by Cletus Funk; 11-09-2005, 01:46 PM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Frank the Tank
                    Lacy's not really hurting guys with his cuffs either. The guys he stopping were generally still perfectly lucid when the ref stepped in.
                    I dont think Calzaghe's slapping myself, he's definitely using close fists and i've tried it myself. It works when i do it, its not really my style but they still hurt people and the speed you can upload them is unreal!! Lacy throws huge haymakers every shot and a good opponent should see them before he even throws one, considering how much effort he puts into every shot they dont seem that powerful.

                    Lacy's a dangerman but i dont think Calzaghe should be worried about him, i'd be more worried about Kessler.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by - Evil -
                      I dont think Calzaghe's slapping myself, he's definitely using close fists and i've tried it myself. It works when i do it, its not really my style but they still hurt people and the speed you can upload them is unreal!! Lacy throws huge haymakers every shot and a good opponent should see them before he even throws one, considering how much effort he puts into every shot they dont seem that powerful.

                      Lacy's a dangerman but i dont think Calzaghe should be worried about him, i'd be more worried about Kessler.
                      You've been quiet lately mate.

                      It does look like he slaps a bit when he flurries but most fighters do when it's done at that speed. I agree, it's still hard enough to disorientate the other guy and give openings for the bigger shots.

                      I need to see more of Kessler but he does look a more rounded fighter than Lacy.
                      Last edited by Cletus Funk; 11-09-2005, 06:47 AM.

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