Comments Thread For: Erik Morales Confirms Mayweather Rumor, Backs Marquez

[Uncle Rodge]

Someone on here has a quote on their sig advising that Hitting Marquez in face is equivalent to starting an ass whopping machine.

I would suggest to Mr Morales that JMM was what was v wrong with Manny.

You have to respect his achievements in the game but he’s had his day. Won’t fight Khan but happy to cash out on Floyd.

Sad really.

[LeadUppercut]

How much did you loss this time...☺☺

Not a cent, but Pacquiao lost all of his pride, again

Why would you *** with me ?

[LeadUppercut]

Hey leadupperclit long time no see. You're still b!tchin' I see. While we're on the topic of getting punched in the faced. See the faces of Pac & Marquez and tell me who got riddled in the face alot that night. Pac only had stiches.

PS. don't bother to reply. I don't look back to my comments knowing a dog like you will always be sniffin' my a$$ all the time. And if you're wondering, I scored it a draw. Marquez stopped fighting in rounds 11 & 12 was his own undoing. Too bad, he could've won. But Pac winning is more justified than JMM winning, especially considering who is the champ and who is the challenger. I give Marquez an applause. I ain't surprised though. I know Marquez is a tough Hombre.

Hey, poser, good ta see ya ^^

Yep I agree, Marquez won the fight hands down, and just like Brother ****m said, he proved that he is a better P4P fighter than Pacquiao.

But then again, a lot of us already knew that.

What is left for Pac, now that he has been exposed by a 38yo lightweight?

[chardrnm]

Now they know how to beat Pacquiao. Simply by stepping on his lead foot to disrupt his rhythm and speed. See video http://********/4VRQms5hdMU

[LeadUppercut]

Morales was right when he said that this wasn't the Pac he fought during his fights with him. The Pac Morales fought was an unpredictable killer machine. And he is right.

Here is my thoughts about the fight:

I thought the game plan Roach & Pac had was not good at all. They have to remember their roots and what made them successful. This isn't the Pacman the destroyer anymore this is Pacman the Politician.

Pac's idea was that he thought he could beat Marquez at his own game, which is fighting a technical fight. Big mistake! Pac aint no boxer, he's a brawler. And I sware (cause I saw a shade of it during the fight) if he stopped thinking about outboxing JMM and start throwing wild punches making it a brawl, JMM has no chance to stop and think what Pac has next in store for a counter. Pac hardly threw combinations.

If Pac was a buzzsaw that night, I sware JMM might be winning by points but at the same time JMM will be hurting as hell especially knowing that Pac is stronger now. I think Pac had in mind beating JMM by points rather than go for broke attitude that made him great. I know that approach, go-for-broke, spells doom in boxing, hell no one can be successful with that approach but only for a certain level. However, Pac is the only one who fits well with that approach just because he possesses great speed, has great movements, and has an knack for hitting the right spots when throwing wild punches. It's how he knockdown Marquez in the previous fights, it's how he knocked down the legendary Morales for the first time, it's how he knocked down Cotto.

This fight should've been the same fight when he fought Morales II. He was losing by points, but Morales' face was like a pumpkin which bore the pain that was hard to bare in the end. If you wanna give some, you got to get some.

About Marquez stepping on Pac's foot to get a good shot? I don't by much into that, it's one of the tricks in boxing. As for Pac getting cramps? he will always have cramps especially with that huge calf he has, combined with quick agile movements. Face it people. This isn't the Pacman of old, this is Pacman the congressman. And that's that.

Read Eric's comment again......

" buzzsaw " Pac would have gotten a worse pasting, and you know it.

Marquez controlled him beautifully.

If you cannot understand that every punch that Pac throws at Mayweather will provide an opportunity for Floyd, then I suggest that you do not watch that fight.

I remember telling you that Pac's vaunted punch output would plummet against Mayweather, and you disagreed Now can you see why "buzzsaw" Pac is ineffective against a counter-puncher??

Now can you see why Pac specialises in slow, plodding, come-forward guys like Diaz, Hatton, Clottey, Margarito?

[LeadUppercut]

As a boxing fan for years, I have heard these excuses all the time from various boxers, and I just laugh everytime.
Why is it that when a fighter loses its because there was something wrong, or he didn't prepare well enough? Credit is never given to the opponent.

Yes Pacquiao did not look like his typical dominant self, but it had nothing to do with him, rather it had to do with his oppoenent. Marquez was the difference, he frustrated him and did not allow Pacquiao to look good.

This is no different than how many people were saying Marquez could not compete above 135 because he looked bad against Floyd. Not realizing he looked bad against Floyd because Floyd was just that much better than him, regardless of the weight.

Or my favorite excuse from Andre Berto. I wasn't myself, that wasn't me in there, blah blah blah. Yeah had nothing to do with Ortiz being bigger, stronger and better than you!

A fighter can have an off night, for a number of reasons, but I agree with you man, that excuse p1sses me off to.....

Either.....
a.) state what the problem was, and what you intend to do to fix it
or.....
b.) retire, because if you dont know what caused the problem, good luck convincing me that I should put my hand in my pocket to pay watch you again

[LeadUppercut]

honestly... i think pac fought shook... he was scared to jump in and get some action. seeing a reluctant pacquiao was very disturbing.

getting countered never stopped pac from pressuring in the past... so why now??? to me, it seemed he respected jmm too much.... even katsidis was able to drop jmm by being aggressive. pac mightve made the same mistake diaz did in the rematch by trying to outbox jmm...

its as if to PROVE pac has "improved", but all pac needed to do from the start was bring the fight to jmm. bad strategy. nacho was right... an "improved" pacquiao is easier than an unpredictably dangerous "one-dimensional" pacquiao.

I see your point, but that doesnt make any sense.

They clearly intended to disadvantage Marquez on the scales. If you disagree, then explain why the *** Manny "conceded" a catch-weight that he cannot even make himself, in spite of admitting that his best fighting weight is 140?

They relied on the fact that Marquez looked old, fat, and slow, against Mayweather, and that he would fare no better this time around..... it would have been impossible to drag Marquez further away from his comfort zone.

Pac's plan was obviously to use his size/speed advantage to out-muscle Marquez, so why would he attempt to box him?

" pac fought shook "

Agreed, and that boils down to the style of Marquez. Not only did Marquez retain his speed, he could hurt Pac, and Manny was not expecting that.

Pac thought that he could simply overwhelm Marquez and blow him out of the ring using his size/speed advantage..... they were ALLLLL saying it, some even predicted a first round KO.

Marquez has Pac's number, plain and simple, and the rematch will be no different.

4-0.

[LeadUppercut]

I've been saying this for a while now after the second Pacquiao Vs Marquez fight and I still stand by it now ; Freddie Roach has obviously made great improvements with Pacquiao, we all know that. However, it doesn't matter how many changes Roach makes to Manny as far as Marquez is concerned, because Pacquiao makes certain mistakes which he will ALWAYS do, and these mistakes and movements are bread and butter for a fighter like Marquez who has such refined ring intelligence.

Other than what has already been talked about regarding the in-ring action of the fight, one of the things which Marquez used against Pacquiao to great effect was doubling up on the foot shift feints, and feinting immediatley after Pacquiao's come-forward attack bursts, which made Manny hold his feet for a crucial amount more than what he normally would've, and put him in prime position for Marquez's precise counter punches.

I have to say, that as far as fight odds and who was the favourite and underdog in this fight, this was one of the most ridiculous examples of that I have ever seen of a fight where one guy was an overwhelming favourite when he should not of been to that extent. Ever since the fight was announced, all I heard about was how Manny was going to destroy Marquez once and for all. Everytime I heard such crazyness, I shook my head.

Another thing I noticed which seems to be apparent, is that the vast majority of observers/writers etc who are now saying Pacquiao is fading and very much on the way out, they are the very same people who were heavily backing a devistating KO win for Pacquiao, and are now writing on their internet/print columns and blogs about how Manny "wasn't the Pacquiao we all came to love", in doing so taking a large amount of credit away from Marquez, sheerly because they haven't got the balls to admit that they made a massive error of judgement that they made using paper-thin reasons and arguments that had no real substance to them when looking at them properly. Everyone gets it wrong now and then when it comes to fight predictions, but considering that a lot of these writers get paid a decent living and front row seats to history, then you would think that they would be able to at least ; 1-admit when they are wrong....2-see the real facts and statistics that matter going into a fight and see it for what it really is.

Although I do not believe that you have to be an ex-fighter to really know the game properly, (although I myself had quite a decent and fairly extensive amateur background), but many people over the years have done great things in the sport despite never actually stepping between the ropes....but I definatley believe 100% that there is a major problem in boxing right now regarding a large amount of well-known people who appear on some very large news media outlets, and do not have any knowledge whatsoever about ring tactics, techniques, subtleties etc....and while it might not sound like such a problem on the surface, but it really is....because it can have serious consequences, one of the main ones being that there are FAR TOO MANY examples of fights being scored incorrectly , mainly due to the bull**** obsession that these uninformed people have with "the aggressor" , which more often than not boils down to a guy plodding forward for 12 rounds like a zombie. Two words guys ; "EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION".

That **** needs to stop.

I agree 100% with the bold, good call man..... but I am not sure about your earlier comments regarding Pacquiao's supposed improvements..... but he is much stronger, no question.

[LeadUppercut]

Now they know how to beat Pacquiao. Simply by stepping on his lead foot to disrupt his rhythm and speed. See video http://********/4VRQms5hdMU

You are nothing but a fkn moron kid.

Have you really never seen a conventional fight a southpaw before ?

Was Pacquiao's foot nailed to the ground ?

How the hell can Marquez watch Manny, and his feet, at the same time ?

How could that possibly be an effective gameplan, your opponent would realise within the first round, and start stepping on your foot everytime you attempted to go for the outside position.

Every single time that you re-post that idiotic rubbish, you make it plainly obvious that you know nothing about boxing. Grow up crybaby loser.

3-0.

[AzteK Warrior]

Shame on you Fraud MayFlower!!!! Stop stealing money from your fans and us. You are a coward!!