Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Marquez: Weekend Review and Ratings Update
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ESPN.com had it 114-114 as did I.
Still "at the end of the day", "like I always say", Floyd Mayweather is #1 WW and should be the #1 P4P.
Pac can't live off his CW win over Cotto from 2009, his ONE fight vs a Champion who to this day is mentally jacked because of Margarito. Did anyone see him in HBO Face off? I'm rooting for you Cotto but you better not quit.
May 5th, in Vegas, Mayweather vs Pac, no excuses, "no issues", "let's get it on".
The world will see the dffierence between GREAT and a media created hype machine.
you're a fair poster - but dude, think about that for a second. . . MAB - TWICE. . . MORALES - TWICE! Cotto and Clottey are both world class boxer/punchers. . .Comment
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(to Fetta)A third shot?? i've never seen a floyd jr vs castillo III. you're probably blinded by mayweather's sacs. you should loosen up on them and go check your history.Comment
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How long ago was that? Pac can't live off that to be the "current" P4P #1. Are you serious. I NEVER EVER doubted Pac during the MAB and Morales days! Never!
But come on, ever since Cotto it has been ****. He hasn't even fought a Champion in over 2 years, unless you count this past weekend.
I said I would agree if nobody or at least Mayweather and Pac neither where #1 as it to be decided on May 5th.Comment
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another guy who has been watching boxing for a few years. . . you should check out what pacquiao did before he came to lightweight, son. . . no use in debating with somebody like you who doesn't know shyt. . . LOL. . just gotta laugh at somebody like you . hahahaall time great?...lol...by beating who? oscar? hatton? margarito? a stand in front of you margarito? a slow margarito? oscar who was clearly past his best and severly weightdrained? a punching bag in clottey? one of worst champs ever in diaz? thats how he became great? by claiming a jr middle weight title without fighting at that weight is great? by making cotto come down in weight but not making clottey do it(oh because clottey isn't as fast as cotto or hits as hard)...pac was exposed and has been before by jmm,he can't beat guys with skills only guys like the ones i mentioned,man this fight confirmed 100% that he cannot beat floyd,floyd has counterpunching abilities like marquez but floyd is stronger and faster,way faster,if jmm was able to hit him and counter him like he did and hurt him because manny said marquez did hurt him,floyd will get a tko by the seventh round and make manny miss all night long...like i said,comparing manny to those all time greats is so insultingComment
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Pacquiao won the fight. Marquez avoided hitting the canvass. That's all.Comment
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Pacquiao will NOT be mentioned with Ali, Leonard, Robsinson, unless he beats Mayweather. Same thing goes for Floyd. The only other thing they can do is fight Sergio Martinez.pacquiao has accomplished things that NO OTHER boxer in the history of the sport has - including ali. . . Pacquiao is an all time great and a legend. . . Having close fights with your nemesis DOES NOT deter from your legacy. . . Ali had Frazier. . . I'd say Marquez is just as good, poiund for pound, as Frazier was, if not better. . . You just mad, that's all!
Ali fought in the greatest era of heavyweights, and beat them all. Cooper, Liston, Patterson, Chuvalo, Terrell, Frazier (2/3), Norton (2/3), Foreman, Lyle, Shavers. What's even more impressive about Ali was the fact that he achieved his all-time greatness when he was past his prime-still good (1970-1975). A lot of people forget that Ali's prime, where he could dance for a whole fight and had the best stamina we've ever seen, and could throw combo's routinely, was from 1964-1967. I just wish Ali would have called it quits after the Frazier fight in 75'. After Ali-Frazier III, Ali was a complete shell of himself and not even that good anymore. And by 78', Ali was way way way gone. It's sad to have seen Ali fall like he did after the Frazier fight. Without the damn layoff for 3 1/2 years, Ali may have never lost.
If it wasn't for the 3 1/2 year layoff, Ali would have NEVER lost to Joe Frazier, NEVER. Frazier was an ATG and gets big credit for beating Ali once, but Frazier was prime in 71' and Ali wasn't. After the layoff, Ali could dance for a few rounds, but fought flat fotted much of the time, lost his stamina, and couldn't throw as effective combos without tiring out. A prime Ali was the best fighter I think we've ever seen.
Pac and Floyd are BOTH All-Time Greats, and Top 30 in my book. But, if they want to be Top 15/Top 10, they need to beat each other and Sergio Martinez.
With that said, it was total bulls**t that Pac got FOTD. That belonged to Floyd and most people deep down know that.Last edited by 4Corners; 11-14-2011, 05:01 PM.Comment
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forget about what heads from espn said.. watch the fight again and listen to lampley and the hbo folks praise pac without him throwing a punch...they were selling it hard and made it obvious.. read what most boxers tweeted even his own gym rat amir khan said.. it was obvious who won .. cleaner punces and combinations all landed by Marquez.. didnt know judges score how many times pac can bounce around and look "aggressive"... BS decision true boxing afficionados know...
A side note to start: Those who feel the HBO commentary was wildly Pacquiao-biased, there's some fuel here. Before the bell sounds, Joltin' Jim Lampley says, "Round one begins with Pacquiao all the way out to the center of the ring before the bell even sounded!" In reality, what we have is Lampley praising Pacquiao...before the fight has even started
tweets from fighters..yui
SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
Robbery!!!!
andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
Marquez won this fight, period!!
jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
On my card Marquez WON!!!!
AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
Look mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds.
PaulMalignaggi Paulie Malignaggi
Dont ask me about the fight I will not give you my opinion except that I thought Marquez won #tk!
AndreBerto Andre Berto
Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank wasn't* gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though
RealJoeCalzaghe Joe Calzaghe
Just watched Marquez v Pacman and have to say thought Marquez was robbed! Thought he won the first 2 fights also!
DarrenBarker82 Darren barker
Just watched the fight Jmm won that in my eyes clearly!
andredirrell Andre Dirrell
I really think so! But its so hard 2 sayRT @serhandayi7: @andredirrell JMM had a great night.....he'll always be a style problem for Pac
SUGARRAYLEONARD Sugar Ray Leonard
The fight against Manny vs Marquez surprised everyone except Marquez! What a display of mental, spiritual and physical training of a boxer!
THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
@FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!
ChinoMaidana Marcos Maidana
Pobre Márquez lo robaron!
[Translation: Poor Marquez, they robbed him!]
Marvin Hagler "Wake up people and realize that we can no longer tolerate corruption in our sport. There needs to be a primary governing body."
Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"
Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"
Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"
Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"
Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."
Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"
Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."
Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."
Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."
Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"
realdealgeale Daniel Geale
I thought the decision was close but in my opinion it should have gone the other way.
K9boxing Cornelius Bundrage
Just got back in town was at the PacMan fight. Marquez got Robbed. I will Destroy PacMan. I been knew it y'all just didn't know.
Champfasteddie Eddie Chambers
The Pacman vs Marquez fight could of went anyway... So I was expecting pacquiao to get the decision...
George Foreman III (George's son) "PAC got outsmarted. It was a tactical victory 4 Marquez but PAC was the aggressor. I think it should've been called a draw."These guys could fight 10 more times and every one will be close. I think a big influence is the prefight perception that JMM had no chance and that Pac would blow him away brutally. The fact that Marquez was so competitive in a fight that few gave him a chance in adds to the belied he pulled it o
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I thought Manny won a close decision, but have no problem with anyone who thought Marquez pulled it out as well.
However, anyone thinking this was a ROBBERY either has a Hispanic last name or doesn't know boxing. A fight that could go either way isn't a robbery, so get over it.
You're right.... all these Pros don't know shyt about boxing. LULZ. FAILED.Comment
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