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  • #11
    Originally posted by Chups View Post
    Did you even watch the video? Rafael had it 7-5 rounds in favor of Pac.
    He called it a draw. Go look it up. Unless he changing his story now cause its also on video him saying it was a draw.

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    • #12
      I had it 8-4 for Marquez after first time viewing and after watching it again and then again i have it 8-4 Marquez. I dont even see a close fight. Marquez won hands down.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by WESS View Post
        ESPN.com had it 114-114 as did I.

        Still "at the end of the day", "like I always say", Floyd Mayweather is #1 WW and should be the #1 P4P.

        Pac can't live off his CW win over Cotto from 2009, his ONE fight vs a Champion who to this day is mentally jacked because of Margarito. Did anyone see him in HBO Face off? I'm rooting for you Cotto but you better not quit.

        May 5th, in Vegas, Mayweather vs Pac, no excuses, "no issues", "let's get it on".

        The world will see the dffierence between GREAT and a media created hype machine.
        MAy 5th in Vegas. I agree no excuses. Pac was given this gift for the superfight with Mayweather not another fight with Marquez. Though i think Marquez won.

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        • #14
          We need answers, pronto!

          Originally posted by uglypug View Post
          pacquiao has accomplished things that NO OTHER boxer in the history of the sport has - including ali. . . Pacquiao is an all time great and a legend. . . Having close fights with your nemesis DOES NOT deter from your legacy. . . Ali had Frazier. . . I'd say Marquez is just as good, poiund for pound, as Frazier was, if not better. . . You just mad, that's all!
          Good point UglyPug, but lopez36 wants to hear what the so called experts on boxing that gave Marquez no chance in hell have to say for themselves and frankly so do I.

          So let's go boxing pros, explain yourselves!

          Originally posted by lopez36:
          i wonder what all those who said pac would blitz right through marquez
          have to say? all those who said jmm would be ko'd
          have to say. those who said his face would look like cottos or margarito.

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          • #15
            Marquez won plain and simple even more clearly this time anyone whos denies that is just a liar and delusional,it was a robbery bigtime not even pac himself beleives he won its a hollow victory and pac goes home with a defeat,marquez is the better fighter pac is the more hyped fighter,all this for a mayweather fight pac has very little chance of winning,its not fair and frankly 90% of the idiots on here saying jmm would be destroyed writers included just got straight up embarrassed and proven wrong and once and for all exposed as people that dont know boxing.Great win for JMM even if it was stolen from him on paper he goes down in history as one of the greatest ever.Pac is a good fighter but he was exposed as a hypejob and a 1-trick pony he certainly isnt the number 1 pnd for pound,hes an arum /media creation,This proves once and for all mayweather is the pnd for pound king,as much as I hate to admit, a mayweather fight is utterly pointless and frankly would most likley end in pac being soundly humiliated.just like he was on sat but worse.Face it *******s the game is over your guy has been exposed not even the most fervent pacfans in the philipines agreed with the decision.THat said a 4th fight is pointless for JMM in vegas,do it in mexico or anywhere but vegas judges there have proven time and again as just utterly corrupt and incompetent.Marquez made yall look ******!!! you know who you are lol..........

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            • #16
              reply to lope

              forget about what heads from espn said.. watch the fight again and listen to lampley and the hbo folks praise pac without him throwing a punch...they were selling it hard and made it obvious.. read what most boxers tweeted even his own gym rat amir khan said.. it was obvious who won .. cleaner punces and combinations all landed by Marquez.. didnt know judges score how many times pac can bounce around and look "aggressive"... BS decision true boxing afficionados know...

              A side note to start: Those who feel the HBO commentary was wildly Pacquiao-biased, there's some fuel here. Before the bell sounds, Joltin' Jim Lampley says, "Round one begins with Pacquiao all the way out to the center of the ring before the bell even sounded!" In reality, what we have is Lampley praising Pacquiao...before the fight has even started

              tweets from fighters..

              SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
              Robbery!!!!

              andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
              Marquez won this fight, period!!

              jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
              On my card Marquez WON!!!!

              AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
              Look mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds.

              PaulMalignaggi Paulie Malignaggi
              Dont ask me about the fight I will not give you my opinion except that I thought Marquez won #tk!

              AndreBerto Andre Berto
              Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank wasn't* gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though

              RealJoeCalzaghe Joe Calzaghe
              Just watched Marquez v Pacman and have to say thought Marquez was robbed! Thought he won the first 2 fights also!

              DarrenBarker82 Darren barker
              Just watched the fight Jmm won that in my eyes clearly!

              andredirrell Andre Dirrell
              I really think so! But its so hard 2 sayRT @serhandayi7: @andredirrell JMM had a great night.....he'll always be a style problem for Pac

              SUGARRAYLEONARD Sugar Ray Leonard
              The fight against Manny vs Marquez surprised everyone except Marquez! What a display of mental, spiritual and physical training of a boxer!


              THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
              @FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!

              ChinoMaidana Marcos Maidana
              Pobre Márquez lo robaron!
              [Translation: Poor Marquez, they robbed him!]

              Marvin Hagler "Wake up people and realize that we can no longer tolerate corruption in our sport. There needs to be a primary governing body."

              Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"

              Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"

              Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

              Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"

              Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

              Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

              Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."

              Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."

              Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."

              Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"

              realdealgeale Daniel Geale
              I thought the decision was close but in my opinion it should have gone the other way.

              K9boxing Cornelius Bundrage
              Just got back in town was at the PacMan fight. Marquez got Robbed. I will Destroy PacMan. I been knew it y'all just didn't know.

              Champfasteddie Eddie Chambers
              The Pacman vs Marquez fight could of went anyway... So I was expecting pacquiao to get the decision...

              George Foreman III (George's son) "PAC got outsmarted. It was a tactical victory 4 Marquez but PAC was the aggressor. I think it should've been called a draw."

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              • #17
                Originally posted by uglypug View Post
                pacquiao has accomplished things that NO OTHER boxer in the history of the sport has - including ali. . . Pacquiao is an all time great and a legend. . . Having close fights with your nemesis DOES NOT deter from your legacy. . . Ali had Frazier. . . I'd say Marquez is just as good, poiund for pound, as Frazier was, if not better. . . You just mad, that's all!
                all time great?...lol...by beating who? oscar? hatton? margarito? a stand in front of you margarito? a slow margarito? oscar who was clearly past his best and severly weightdrained? a punching bag in clottey? one of worst champs ever in diaz? thats how he became great? by claiming a jr middle weight title without fighting at that weight is great? by making cotto come down in weight but not making clottey do it(oh because clottey isn't as fast as cotto or hits as hard)...pac was exposed and has been before by jmm,he can't beat guys with skills only guys like the ones i mentioned,man this fight confirmed 100% that he cannot beat floyd,floyd has counterpunching abilities like marquez but floyd is stronger and faster,way faster,if jmm was able to hit him and counter him like he did and hurt him because manny said marquez did hurt him,floyd will get a tko by the seventh round and make manny miss all night long...like i said,comparing manny to those all time greats is so insulting

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                  I had it 8-4 for Marquez after first time viewing and after watching it again and then again i have it 8-4 Marquez. I dont even see a close fight. Marquez won hands down.
                  it wasnt close it wasnt a draw it was a clear cut win for Marquez ,Marquez left no doubt anyone says otherwise has alterior motives Pac won at getting bombed in the face and one again looking like a boble head doll.sad day for the sport ,but at least truth prevails a very small fringe of people agree with the ridiculous decision,the world over knows Marquez won this fight. Mayweather has got to be licking his chops and lhao.....

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by richfranquez View Post
                    forget about what heads from espn said.. watch the fight again and listen to lampley and the hbo folks praise pac without him throwing a punch...they were selling it hard and made it obvious.. read what most boxers tweeted even his own gym rat amir khan said.. it was obvious who won .. cleaner punces and combinations all landed by Marquez.. didnt know judges score how many times pac can bounce around and look "aggressive"... BS decision true boxing afficionados know...

                    A side note to start: Those who feel the HBO commentary was wildly Pacquiao-biased, there's some fuel here. Before the bell sounds, Joltin' Jim Lampley says, "Round one begins with Pacquiao all the way out to the center of the ring before the bell even sounded!" In reality, what we have is Lampley praising Pacquiao...before the fight has even started

                    tweets from fighters..

                    SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
                    Robbery!!!!

                    andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
                    Marquez won this fight, period!!

                    jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
                    On my card Marquez WON!!!!

                    AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
                    Look mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds.

                    PaulMalignaggi Paulie Malignaggi
                    Dont ask me about the fight I will not give you my opinion except that I thought Marquez won #tk!

                    AndreBerto Andre Berto
                    Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank wasn't* gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though

                    RealJoeCalzaghe Joe Calzaghe
                    Just watched Marquez v Pacman and have to say thought Marquez was robbed! Thought he won the first 2 fights also!

                    DarrenBarker82 Darren barker
                    Just watched the fight Jmm won that in my eyes clearly!

                    andredirrell Andre Dirrell
                    I really think so! But its so hard 2 sayRT @serhandayi7: @andredirrell JMM had a great night.....he'll always be a style problem for Pac

                    SUGARRAYLEONARD Sugar Ray Leonard
                    The fight against Manny vs Marquez surprised everyone except Marquez! What a display of mental, spiritual and physical training of a boxer!


                    THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
                    @FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!

                    ChinoMaidana Marcos Maidana
                    Pobre Márquez lo robaron!
                    [Translation: Poor Marquez, they robbed him!]

                    Marvin Hagler "Wake up people and realize that we can no longer tolerate corruption in our sport. There needs to be a primary governing body."

                    Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"

                    Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"

                    Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

                    Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"

                    Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

                    Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

                    Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."

                    Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."

                    Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."

                    Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"

                    realdealgeale Daniel Geale
                    I thought the decision was close but in my opinion it should have gone the other way.

                    K9boxing Cornelius Bundrage
                    Just got back in town was at the PacMan fight. Marquez got Robbed. I will Destroy PacMan. I been knew it y'all just didn't know.

                    Champfasteddie Eddie Chambers
                    The Pacman vs Marquez fight could of went anyway... So I was expecting pacquiao to get the decision...

                    George Foreman III (George's son) "PAC got outsmarted. It was a tactical victory 4 Marquez but PAC was the aggressor. I think it should've been called a draw."
                    All this and some still think PAc won. Mostly Pac fans think that though cause i have yet to find a web poll that agree with Pac winning. Most are highly for MArquez. No wonder our sport is dying cause did you see how many UFC brought in the stands. I know I lost respect for boxing after this travesty. Not even close fight but the spin is out there.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by richfranquez View Post
                      forget about what heads from espn said.. watch the fight again and listen to lampley and the hbo folks praise pac without him throwing a punch...they were selling it hard and made it obvious.. read what most boxers tweeted even his own gym rat amir khan said.. it was obvious who won .. cleaner punces and combinations all landed by Marquez.. didnt know judges score how many times pac can bounce around and look "aggressive"... BS decision true boxing afficionados know...

                      A side note to start: Those who feel the HBO commentary was wildly Pacquiao-biased, there's some fuel here. Before the bell sounds, Joltin' Jim Lampley says, "Round one begins with Pacquiao all the way out to the center of the ring before the bell even sounded!" In reality, what we have is Lampley praising Pacquiao...before the fight has even started

                      tweets from fighters..

                      SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
                      Robbery!!!!

                      andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
                      Marquez won this fight, period!!

                      jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
                      On my card Marquez WON!!!!

                      AmirKingKhan Amir Khan
                      Look mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds.

                      PaulMalignaggi Paulie Malignaggi
                      Dont ask me about the fight I will not give you my opinion except that I thought Marquez won #tk!

                      AndreBerto Andre Berto
                      Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank wasn't* gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though

                      RealJoeCalzaghe Joe Calzaghe
                      Just watched Marquez v Pacman and have to say thought Marquez was robbed! Thought he won the first 2 fights also!

                      DarrenBarker82 Darren barker
                      Just watched the fight Jmm won that in my eyes clearly!

                      andredirrell Andre Dirrell
                      I really think so! But its so hard 2 sayRT @serhandayi7: @andredirrell JMM had a great night.....he'll always be a style problem for Pac

                      SUGARRAYLEONARD Sugar Ray Leonard
                      The fight against Manny vs Marquez surprised everyone except Marquez! What a display of mental, spiritual and physical training of a boxer!


                      THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
                      @FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!

                      ChinoMaidana Marcos Maidana
                      Pobre Márquez lo robaron!
                      [Translation: Poor Marquez, they robbed him!]

                      Marvin Hagler "Wake up people and realize that we can no longer tolerate corruption in our sport. There needs to be a primary governing body."

                      Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"

                      Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"

                      Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

                      Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"

                      Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

                      Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

                      Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."

                      Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."

                      Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."

                      Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"

                      realdealgeale Daniel Geale
                      I thought the decision was close but in my opinion it should have gone the other way.

                      K9boxing Cornelius Bundrage
                      Just got back in town was at the PacMan fight. Marquez got Robbed. I will Destroy PacMan. I been knew it y'all just didn't know.

                      Champfasteddie Eddie Chambers
                      The Pacman vs Marquez fight could of went anyway... So I was expecting pacquiao to get the decision...

                      George Foreman III (George's son) "PAC got outsmarted. It was a tactical victory 4 Marquez but PAC was the aggressor. I think it should've been called a draw."
                      i have to agree with you,i have always noticed that,they LOVE pac over at hbo...i never pay attention to what they say but to what the real fans or the other boxers say,the ones who have boxed before and from what you wrote here it is clear people think jmm won that fight...let me tell you this,if i were jmm i wouldn't take the fourth fight,why? because it's so obvious he will NEVER get the decision,meaning he would have to just go and ko him,which means change his whole style of fighting and that would be to manny's advantage,marquez would just leave himself open and just not counter which is how he beats manny,and that would all favor manny and it's really bad that marquez would have to change his style which is very good to a very bad one that would favor manny,he doesn't need to face manny anymore,we know who the better fighter is,no manny can go back to facing floyds leftovers or facing stand in front of you/no skill fighters

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