boxing is brutal. one controversial win and you're a bum. a hypejob.

[Larry the boss]

You're a bum if you struggle against one of the most skilled boxers/counter punchers in the game?!?

yet ya'll refuse to give floyd credit for dominating this same"most skilled fighter"

[Kagami Taiga]

Nah cause I'm using Boxing scene logic now.

"EVEN AMIR KHAN, MANNY'S OWN SPARRING PARTNER SAID HE LOST, SO HE LOST"

"EVEN FILIPINOS ARE SAYING MANNY LOST, SO HE LOST"

Floyd Sr. Said DLH won, so he must have won too right?

But that aside, Floyd did NOT look good against DLH and he got by him, but barely. Manny looked like a God against De La Hoya. Why? Cause styles make fights for ****s sake.

And before anyone says this **** about oscar getting old overnight or being dehydrated the EXACT same thing can be said for Marquez vs Mayweather.

floyd didnt look bad against dlh. wtf are u talking about? he looked slow, past his max weight class but he was in control of the fight all the way thru. stop talking outta ur ass.

[PfourP]

and styles make fights, except for when ur floyd mayweather. that excuse would never work for him. but for manny, ive heard it so many times in the last 48hrs that if i had a dollar for everytime i heard it, id be swimmin in arab money. u guys are a bunch of hypocrites that expose yourselves.

LOL that's a given in boxing don't be stupid. No it applies for him too. And
Castillo 1? Mayweather could have EASILY lost that on the cards. But didn't. Just like Pac didn't 2 nights ago against Marquez. And Mayweather looked bad that fight, no?

I'm not excusing Manny's performance, I think it was really bad. But to discredit his career now JUST based off that performance is stupid. They dropped the ball, and Marquez came with it. Marquez had their number, it's that's simple. AND Manny looks like he's on the decline. Those are all valid points. But too say he was never P4P like some ppl have said is just ******ed.

[Oxn]

Ryann:

clottey, cotto (145), ODH , hatton, Margs (150), Mosley

Other than cotto, somewhat mitigated by the 145 limit, is not exactly a great list of opponents. Throw in Diaz and uh what is wrong with that post.

GTFO out of here.

Had Manny dominated JMM like people predicted, he too would be swept under the rug like all the names you listed.

Cotto made no excuses for the weight, came outright saying it had no effect, but still the haters wil continue using that excuse.

Against Marg at 150, its for the benefit of MArg for that catchweight. Would you rather it not be a ctach weight and had him fight at 147? ****ingtards.

[The Big Dunn]

Nah cause I'm using Boxing scene logic now.

"EVEN AMIR KHAN, MANNY'S OWN SPARRING PARTNER SAID HE LOST, SO HE LOST"

"EVEN FILIPINOS ARE SAYING MANNY LOST, SO HE LOST"

Floyd Sr. Said DLH won, so he must have won too right?

But that aside, Floyd did NOT look good against DLH and he got by him, but barely. Manny looked like a God against De La Hoya. Why? Cause styles make fights for ****s sake.

And before anyone says this **** about oscar getting old overnight or being dehydrated the EXACT same thing can be said for Marquez vs Mayweather.

Floyd beat ODH by a wide margin. Floyd beat JMM by a wider margin. Manny beat ODH because he was fighting at a weight he hadn't made in years. Manny has never beaten JMM by a widde margin.

The point is manny still has flaws that floyd doesn't. Floyd has dominated his "problem opponents", leftioes with speed. Manny has yet to dominate a boxer.

Manny is no bum, He is also no Floyd Mayweather.

[Oxn]

yet ya'll refuse to give floyd credit for dominating this same"most skilled fighter"

And no one still will. Just like no one will give credit to Vitali for dominating Adamek.

Same thing.

[The Big Dunn]

GTFO out of here.

Had Manny dominated JMM like people predicted, he too would be swept under the rug like all the names you listed.

Cotto made no excuses for the weight, came outright saying it had no effect, but still the haters wil continue using that excuse.

Against Marg at 150, its for the benefit of MArg for that catchweight. Would you rather it not be a ctach weight and had him fight at 147? ****ingtards.

Of cousre cotto would say it. If it wasn't an issue, manny wouldn't have pressed for 145.

All of these fighters essentially bring the same thing to the table. Come forward, little movement, not great counterpunching. Floyd has fought a wider array of ww's that bring different skills to the table.

But this isn't about floyd. Its about manny being held to the same standard as all great fighters should be, He hasn't met that standard for some time IMO, but clearly didn't meet it Saturday.

[Mike Haynes]

Styles make fights

If Pac fought Marquez like Floyd did, he'd pitch a shutout. If Floyd fought Marquez like Pac did, it would be a close entertaining battle.

[jtiger777]

marquez is a bad match up for pacquiao.

its ridiculous people are now sweeping all his wins since 2008 under the rug cause he had another close fight with a guy who's style was tailor made for his.

marquez and pacquiao will always be close, and i think pac will always win unconvincingly

i think pac vs any good technical boxer will always be close, thats the reason out of his last 8 opponents there was only 1 which is marquez...

[Oxn]

Of cousre cotto would say it. If it wasn't an issue, manny wouldn't have pressed for 145.

All of these fighters essentially bring the same thing to the table. Come forward, little movement, not great counterpunching. Floyd has fought a wider array of ww's that bring different skills to the table.

But this isn't about floyd. Its about manny being held to the same standard as all great fighters should be, He hasn't met that standard for some time IMO, but clearly didn't meet it Saturday.

But had he beat JMM in the fans eyes, then JMM would be an Old counterpuncher. He was suppose to beat him. The excuses were already made prior to the fight.

Manny is always going to be in a lose-lose situation just like Floyd. They win, then they were suppose to win. They lose then they were never P4P.

Their will always be excuses no matter what for either fighters. If Floyd loses to Martinez, then its cause Floyd cant fight someone good at 154. Hes not a junior Middle weight.