Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

[L. Cipher]

116-113 Marquez, I had 7 rounds for JMM 4 for MP and imscored the 9th round even

[Bring It On]

115-113 Pac.

But I could see everything from 112-116 to 116-112. Many close rounds.

If everyone is going to run from Pac from now on, he might as well retire.

[puga]

Everyone thinks Marquez won, even most Pacquiao fans. Your dumbass probably wasn't even watching the fight.

lol at everyone.....lederman scored it for jmm?...did any of the judges scored for marquez?....dumb****

[Slip Stream]

Could be worse, boxing could get to a stage where you sucker punch fighters to win while the other guy is defenceless


yeah marquez got screwed over last night

I had it 115-113 to marquez

116-112 this morning but no way could anyone score the fight for pac, the best was a draw for him

Or it could get so bad that fans refuse to see headbutts or acknowledge the damage they can do.

[ussy]

rd 1: 10 -9 pac
rd 2: 10- 9 JMM
rd 3: 10 - 9 JMM
rd4: 10 - 9 JMM
Rd 5: 10 - 9 JMM
Rd 6: 10 -9 JMM
Rd 7: 10 -9 JMM
Rd 8: 10 - 9 Pac
Rd 9: 10 -9 Pac
Rd 10: 10 - 9 JMM
Rd 11: 10-9 JMM
Rd 12: 10-9 Pac

That's 8 rounds to 4 for the real champion Juan Manuel Marquez.

What a damn robbery!

exact same scorecard for me

[puga]

Aren't you the same person who thought Haye would beat Wlad? You know nothing about boxing.

lol...you have the nerves to really say that?...thats like floyd accusin someone of having no class...

[AssasinKing]

I had it 116-112 Pac (give or take a round)

Im gonna rewatch the fight..... But I had it pretty much a draw up to round 8.... then JMM just took his foot off the gas and started fighting from a shell...especially the last 2 rounds, I dont even remember him trying to hit pac

Gonna watch it again now and see if i score it the same

1 thing tho, you get people saying 116-112 for pac is crazy, how is 116 (or even 117) to 112 for jmm...not crazy

Cos the punches landed were so similar..every1 has to go to something else like...movement, ring generalship, defence etc... some people are favouring pac..some jmm

[BennyST]

Already watched the fight twice (thank God for DVRs). I had it 115-113 Marquez when I watched it the first time and 114-114 when I watched it the second time. IMO it was another super close fight. IMO no robbery here.

If Marquez fought Pac 50 times, they would have 50 close fights.

Yes, they would and yet Pac would still win 50 times, and Marquez lose 50 times.

[|STALLION|]

Watched it three times, the last time with the sound off. I have it 115-113 for Marquez. That's a close score, so "robbery" is a strong word, but you've got to be generous to Pacquiao or have a very idiosyncratic take on scoring to even reverse that tally in his favour, nevermind have him winning 8 rounds as per Trowbridge's 116-112 card (that wide, even with the 12th inexplicably given to Marquez?).


My own final verdict; Marquez won. The best result Pacquiao could claim is a draw. If this rigged dynamic wasn't a factor, two out of three judges giving Pac the win wouldn't be a "robbery" in and of itself (more like two samples of very subjective scoring); but, let's face it, JMM wasn't getting a decision last night whatever he did, and that's the robbery.






EDIT; FTR,

2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 were the seven rounds I had JMM winning.

[Pretty Boy32]

what a dumb mother****er...let me simplify it for you,...

a fighter who thows 50 punches and connects 25 (50%)vs a fighetr who thows 100 and 40(40%), who wins?...

if you think the one with higher percentage then you should'nt score fights at all....

From their twitter accounts:

Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne

Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop

OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya

Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell

ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH

Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham

Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"

Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin

Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward

Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."

Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"

Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"

Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."

Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY

Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
#LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas

Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull

Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan

Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine

Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100

Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp