Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

[Prime 407]

People should stop talking about compubox as if it's infallible.
Compubox is nothing more than a few human beings hitting a button each time they see (or think) a punch lands. Are humans infallible?

Yeah compubox is only awesome when pulling up Floyd stats, sux for everybody else.

[Mr.0pal]

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I have a feeling that compubox was rigged last night. I think they were giving Pacquiao credit for anything that came close to landing on Marquez, I thought Marquez' defense was damn near amazing last night. Yet those clowns somehow found all these phantom punches to give to Manny. WTF?

Very possible that they were counting blocked punches, misses, and grazes. My eyes did not see Manny out punching Marquez.

[_original_]

Cotto is a warrior at least for the first few rounds.

For fighting like an idiot, running from Pacquiao the last few rounds, and not having half the boxing brain that Marquez has?

this guy/slut is a troll, I don't even know why real boxing fans are bothering with him/her.

[Mr.0pal]

Yeah compubox is only awesome when pulling up Floyd stats, sux for everybody else.

Don't need compubox for Floyd's stats.... you can watch his fights and clearly see that he out-lands on his opponents considerably. Too bad the same can''t be said about Manny.

[Phenom]

******* Mentality 01:35

[sapak]

Judges judge, compubox is there to provide stat for public consumption, not for judge so blame the judges not the compubox or whoever are involve in them.

[check hook]

Iv'e said this many times before. Compubox is an amatuer scoring system that tallies punches landed. Often it's a great indicator of how a fight played out, and other times it isn't.

It tallies any punch that isn't a jab as a power punch, but doesn't take into consideration how hard, cleanly or accurately a punch is landed, ring generalship, or defense, all which play a role in pro judging. Many pro judges simply tally landed punches (the ones they see land anyway), which is why we get so many poor decisions.

Say a fighter lands 10 power shots in a round according to compubox, but the opponent isn't hurt or fazed by the punches, and they return fire with a five power punch combo, which staggers the other fighter and clearly hurts them. In this instance compubox would score for the guy who techniclly landed five more shots with no consideration to the quality of the shots landed and the damage they did.

As i said, sometimes it is indicative of what played out. For example we can use two Floyd fights to illustrate this point. In the FMJ vs JMM fight the numbers showed total offensive and defensive dominance from Mayweather, and that's what actually happened. IF you watch FMJ vs Jesus Chavez (a while back i know) the compubox numbers are basically even, yet Chavez' corner stopped the fight (in the eight i believe) and no one would have called that fight close, because all the shots Floyd landed were accurate and clean. Compubox does not consider this.

[Mr.0pal]

Judges judge, compubox is there to provide stat for public consumption, not for judge so blame the judges not the compubox or whoever are involve in them.

This thread about not about the judges decision. That's an entirely different topic with a different dynamic of points. This thread is about compubox results and reliability.

[LoadedWraps]

Very close fight Marquez could have taken it I have to see it again to judge better I still think Pacquiao can beat Mayweather

[jkaisen41]

Compubox is indeed a joke but like i said even if the stats were 100% correct that doesnt judge who won the fight.

Boxing is judged round by round on

Effective Aggression
Defense
Ring Generalship
Clean and effective punching

If you had pacquiao winning based on these boxing judging rules you are a the reason why we see these rigged fights. Open your eyes

Exactly my words...

Marquez won based on effective aggression, defense, ring generalship and clean punching... Pacquiao won on CompuBoxStats... well if this is the new way to go alright - then we don't need judges anymore...