Name your three choices for fighters who built/improved their rep on a loss

[j]

first, find a post where i said fighting ruiz is pointless. you won't, because there isn't any. never said that. i just don't see him as much of a threat as rahman(as weird as that may sound).

vitali already stated he wants a rematch with byrd, and wk wants a rematch with brester. i would have no trouble at all digging these quotes up.

i usually post where i see something that looks unequitably one sided. i thought that's what you try to do also.

and what is your anamosity towards a more level headed klitschko fan like myself. i never said that there aren't challenges out ther for them. i don't think that they can just walk through everybody.

obviously you dislike them. i myself am not a big fan of zab judah but i don't go bashing his fans.

[Bozo_no no]

and what is your anamosity towards a more level headed klitschko fan like myself. i never said that there aren't challenges out ther for them. i don't think that they can just walk through everybody.

I've told you before, despite the fact you are civil and level headed, I find you to be just as deluded as most of the Nut Huggers.

first, find a post where i said fighting ruiz is pointless. you won't, because there isn't any. never said that. i just don't see him as much of a threat as rahman(as weird as that may sound).

To me, it seemed as though that was the same thing. Ruiz isn't pointless, he's beaten a long list of top ten Heavyweights, including Rahman.

Like I said, I get the overall impression from many people that because they *think* Vitali wouldn't be troubled by anyone in the top 5, that should exclude him from having to fight them.

You've already said you think he should be unifying (somehting I thought you eluded to that you felt otherwise) so I don't really have an issue if you're agreeing with that.

Hopefully after this Rahman fight, he'll look to fight another title holder.

[Bozo_no no]

Sorry Anorak,

to answer your thread,

I'd say Gatti agaisnt Ivan Robinson, and despite my feelings about Vitali being overhyped as a fighter overall, he did make a good aco**** of himself in his loss to Lewis.

Nothing tops Rocky in agaisnt Apollo in the 1st Rocky though.

[Brother Mouzone]

vargas vs. trinidad the fight ended his career but he got alot of respect for the heart he showed ..

tarver vs. jones 1 showed that rjj was not invinsible ..


jmm vs. pac i know the fight was officially a draw but i belive jmm lost a close fight ...but he gained my respect i thought it was over after the 1st. rnd..

[j]

alright dude, we got no issues then, right?

just never, ever, call me a nuthugger. i don't like that word. it gets dropped too much. i don't just follow the klitschko's, they're what brought my interest back into the heavyweights.

i'm a big fan of tszyu, augustus, pacquiao(both of 'em actually), and like tarver just a bit. jirov's cool as well, just not built to be a heavyweight contender.

bozo, who are you're faves?

[Guest]

how bout Lennox Lewis vs Oliver Mccall, Lewis hired Manny Steward and won the championship after that fight, also Danny Williams win over Mike Tyson hyped him up to a shot at the hw title

Huh? Lewis was out of major contention for over two years after that fight and his stock plummeted.

As with Danny Williams, the golden rule is: if you're a Brit, we'll give you a chance, but you'd better not lose.



Bozo... getting a bit boring and predictable now mate, you're hi******* my thread.

[Guest]

Sorry Anorak,

to answer your thread,

Oh, you already said it.

Not to bring back the Vitali topic, but I'll say this: I LIKE Vitali. Whether he'll ever be something in history I don't know, but I'll look forward to finding out. Out of all the heavies present, he's the one I most want to watch right now.

Also, remember that boxing is a BUSINESS. Vitali has said that he'd fight any other heavy (except for Little Klit, natch) in a recent interview. However, Byrd cannot call for any fight simply because people don't want to pay to see him. Same with Ruiz.

The only unification I'd like to see is Big Klit-Brewster. Then, assuming Big Klit comes up trumps, maybe he should take on Byrd again just to clear the slate. After that, well, wait for Ruiz to lose and take on whoever beats him. There really is no need for us to see Big Klit-Ruiz... I'd die happy having never seen that.

[j]

good post anorak. but i'd like to see little k fight brewster first. and big k fight byrd.


not trying to hijack the thread, but what is up with ruiz? is he just sitting on his lawsuit? i haven't heard a damn thing about the guy trying to fight anyone. this is where the wba should step in. if i were ruiz, i'd rematch toney.

[Guest]

good post anorak. but i'd like to see little k fight brewster first. and big k fight byrd.


not trying to hijack the thread, but what is up with ruiz? is he just sitting on his lawsuit? i haven't heard a damn thing about the guy trying to fight anyone. this is where the wba should step in. if i were ruiz, i'd rematch toney.

No, you're okay, it's more Bozo. Anyone can have an opinion, but to keep stating that same opinion over and over ad naseum to the exclusion of original converse on the subject isn't on. Or even worse, on threads where it's not related.

[Grimgash]

The bottom line is that he needs to fight the other title holders. You (and others who think like you) seem to think that because the other title holders aren't very threatening, that there's no problem with him taking fights agaisnt guys less threatening.

That's a cop out.

The division is poor, he's one of 4 title holders who all have been inactive and facing poor opposition.

He needs to fight whoever else has a title.

The division needs to be unified before anyone is refered to as "the" champion.

Because the division is so poor, all he can do to garner credibility is to become a unifed champion. If he continues to take lesser fights and doesn't unify, all he's going to be left with is a meidocre overall resume, and the fact he was one of four men to hold 'a' title in one of the weakest points in the division's history.

Actually, not to nitpick... hes one of the three belt holders who are inactive and fighting weak competition. Granted I'm a bit biased because i think brewster is very fun to watch, he is active and fights some good (notice i didnt say great) fighters. Golota, Meehan (wasn't as good....i heard because theyre good friends) and krasniqi all three are very capable heavyweights...personally fighting ruiz or toney will do nothing for vitalis career, infact ruiz will have a bigger impact as it will give him 2 of the 4 major belts. Anyone who thinks toney can beat (i've read hell KO?....vitali) i disagree, he doesn't have the range or power to hang in there the full 12 I'd say. I may be wrong. I apologize for this being hard to read due to the skips in my train of thought.