If Mayweather-Martinez or Pac-Martinez are at 150 or 151, they still get credit, just not as much as they would if the fight was at 152-154.
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostIf Manny is a fraud JMW, what does that make Martinez?
Sergio was fedex'd the WBC strap after his draw against Cintron and due to Vernon Forrest passing.
Atleast Manny won his title in the ring, whereas Sergio was handed it by Suliman (without even winning a fight).
Not only did Pacquiao not beat a champion, he did not even beat a JMW.
How ****** can you possibly be kid ?
Pacquiao fought a faded welterweight BUM, for a vacant title, at catch-weight, using 8oz gloves. There were so many things wrong with that fight, but I highlighted a couple for ya ^^
Only a total fkn idiot would regard Pac as a genuine JMW champ.
Martinez beat the #1 and #2 middleweights, when has Pacquiao ever beaten the #1 and #2 in a division? Martinez is a large JMW who punches above his weight at 160, whereas Pacquiao will not fight anyone dangerous in his own division without a catchweight.
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Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostWilliams was the most feared man in boxing??? Maybe most feared guy for guys 5'6" to 5'9" but not any WW or Jr MW 5'10" and above but it was a great marketing tool... Not to mention he couldn't sell tickets... Martinez was the bigger fighter so much so that Williams asked for a catch weight in the rematch and after the rematch Williams went back to 154 while Martinez stayed at MW... Martinez should clean out his division Pirog or look for the Super Six guys... It just make you look like a chump when the ONLY fights you are looking for or guys at 154 or below, He should at least include one MW or Super Six guy on his list. BTW he wants to fight Chavez and not Pirog because of resume well sorry to inform Sergio but Pirog's resume at MW is a LOT better than Chavez's....
Only a fkn moron would suggest that Williams is smaller than Martinez.
Jeez dude, Williams called out Hopkins at 170.
Williams was intending to go back down to welter in order to land a Pac/May payday, he didnt want to *** up the progress that he had made to date, which is why he requested a catchweight. It was a bull**** excuse, because that was not Martinez problem, and Williams can weigh whatever the *** he wants.
And plz..... Pirog doesnt have a resume', yet.
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostDont be so ******.
Only a fkn moron would suggest that Williams is smaller than Martinez.
Jeez dude, Williams called out Hopkins at 170.
Williams was intending to go back down to welter in order to land a Pac/May payday, he didnt want to *** up the progress that he had made to date, which is why he requested a catchweight. It was a bull**** excuse, because that was not Martinez problem, and Williams can weigh whatever the *** he wants.
And plz..... Pirog doesnt have a resume', yet.
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Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostYou are the dumbest bastard on here and so ignorant!!! Martinez is BIGGER that Williams
Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostI didn't say taller dumb a$$... Williams asked for the catch weight in the rematch. He asked for a catch weight because he knows he's not a MW and can take a MW punch.
Absurd.
Williams demanded a catchweight because he was transitioning back down to 147 for another crack at a Pac/May payday, and he did not want to negate the weight that he had already lost.
Stop being so ******, this article was written just prior to signing the Martinez rematch. Williams clearly indicated that he was dropping weight to go back down to 147.....
http://www.aolnews.com/2010/06/16/pa...r-manny-pacqu/
In this article, Williams admitted that the reason for the catchweight was because he was in the middle of a transition down to 147.....
" Williams' camp explained Williams' low weight by pointing out that Williams was trying to book his next fight at 147 against Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather, Jr., and so he was closer to that weight class ".....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...onference-call
" You are the dumbest bastard on here "
Nope, apparently you are, genius.
" and so ignorant "
Well, we can judge how ignorant you are by your response to this post.
Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostWilliams was a hype job winning fights because he was able to sweat down to 147 which he can no longer do.
Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostI think the Cuban dude ended his career anyway, you will never hear from him again in any serious P4P or top boxers conversation.
Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostWilliams is fighting at 154, Martinez at 160 are you a Fuc$ing idot or what???? You do know 160 is bigger than 154.
And you are a fkn moron if you think that Martinez is a genuine MW.
Since moving up, Williams has had more fights at MW than at 154, and I have never heard Martinez call out guys at 170 like Williams has done.
You are talking **** again, why is that ?
Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostUsing your logic I guess Williams is BIGGER than Mike Tyson because he is taller.
Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostI didn't say Pirog had an awesome resume but I said it was better than Chavez's at MW learn to read dumb a$$...
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Sergio fights out of Oxnard Ca which means he fights in the states
so if Pirog really wants to fight or sturm or anyone else they should be negotiating a fight with sergio here in the states
Sergio may not be a big name but he is a way bigger name than both Pirog and Sturm put together
he beats the brakes off that bum Pirog then all of you cry over the fact that the number 3 P4P is fighting euro bums
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