Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez on Pacquiao, Mayweather, Pirog, More

[edgarg]

During a recent trip to Buenos Aires, Argentina, WBC Diamond middleweight champion Sergio "Maravilla" Martinez (48-2-2, 27KOs) discussed his possible options for 2012. The boxer has been trying to secure a major fight against the two best boxers in the sport, Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38KOs) and Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26KOs). Both of those boxers are champions at 147-pounds, but Martinez is willing to drop down as low as 150-pounds to face either man.

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I think Martinez' comments about a Pirog fight are VERY weak. He has been openly looking for a big money fight, and Pirog's people offered him a HUGE (for him) $6 mill to fight over there, and he refused because he said he'd be robbed of his title there. With international refs how could he be??

[edgarg]

not your not. Thats a contradiction!!

If you cant make (insert division) then your not a blow up (inser divsion)

I don't think you should take everything said in boxing so literally when it suits you, and degrade it when it doesn't. Do a little research He was a welterweight for about the first 25 fights of his career,(a good few years) and then went up. He's no longer a welterweight but uses it to make his point. Just like we talk about Trinidad being a blown up welterweight when we all know he just had to go to Lt. Middle, whic is what he reallt became. . when he What's so hard to understand.

[edgarg]

Waa wwwwaaaa mommy look my name is Sergio I call out welter weights but don't want to fight them at their division. Mommy I am the desperate one but I expect these smaller men who don't need me at all to come up. Mommy waa my name is Sergia waaaa waaaaaaaaa I got my nose broken mommy by an evil 20 something fighter.. waaaaaa. Mommy help me mommy.

Do you realise how ****** you sound? Probably not, but believe me. I'm trying to bring back decent posting to BoxingScene, I'm not doing so well, mainly because of posts like yours.
And you call yourself "BOMBS". I can think of something close, but much more appropriate.

[SixFootGiant]

If he says he can go down to 150 how come he cant go up and meet one of the super middleweights at a catchweight? Im sure with good promotion and hype a fight with either Bute or the Super Six winner can get him a nice payday

[mathed]

Sergio is full of ****

He said he was a blown up WW, now he says he cant nake 147

He said he wanted his titles back and want to fight the best, but why the interest in recouping his WBC belt but not his WBO? LOL

Sergio Martinez fights Darren ****ing Barker and then says Pirog needs to make a name for himself, LMAO at teh hipocresy

LMAO....Williams x2, Pavlik, Cintron, Bunema, Dzinziruk, Margarito....ever heard of those guys?

They all fought on HBO, many times. Pirog fought on HBO once against Jacobs...who else has he fought? A bunch of scrubs in Russia, that's who. Martinez has only been fighting guys with near perfect records and winning against these guys on national television. Pirog beat one singular overhyped prospect and then HBO hasn't invited him back.

Martinez is ranked as the #3 P4P guy in the entire sport, where is Pirog ranked at? You should look at more of the entire picture when making your point besides one fight. Pirog brings nothing more to the table than a belt that he had to do little to nothing to earn and an undefeated record. Martinez will get his belt back from Chavez once the coward vacates and he is trying to be recognized as the P4P best...to do that he needs to fight either Pac or Mayweather...that is his goal (thought that would be apparent at this point).

Pirog's team wants Martinez to come over to Russia to fight him, you think he'd stand any chance in heck of getting a fair turn over there? Obviously not.

[edgarg]

He probably can't anymore... or he probably can. I don't know. Not you or I can answer that. Only he can answer that.

Blown up doesn't mean you can or can't make weight still. You can be a blown up or a natural at a weight-class and still not be able to make the weight. Not everyone is the same.

And, yes JMM is a blown up FW.

NO, lets "call a spade a spade". He's a former featherweight who can no longer make the weight and be in proper shape to fight.. Just as Pacquiao is a former flyweight etc.etc. Get real guys.

[DoktorSleepless]

Actually, no he's not. He was offered double his career high payday ($3 million) to fight Pirog. Bute also offered him a fight at 164. Both would be lucrative options. Sturm also expressed interest in a fight.

Pirog offered $3 million in RUSSIA. Fighting there is ******. Bute has never offered 164. And if Sturm really wanted to fight, it would have happened by now.

He's fighting Macklin on St. Patty's day in MSG most likely.

Nothing wrong with that fight. Last time I checked he was ranked higher than Pirog. Fighting Pirog right now would be meaningless. Let Pirog beat Geale first like he has been talking about and then he would be a good option.

He said he wanted his titles back and want to fight the best, but why the interest in recouping his WBC belt but not his WBO? LOL

WBC has sentimental value. WBO doesn't. Simple as that.

[mathed]

If he says he can go down to 150 how come he cant go up and meet one of the super middleweights at a catchweight? Im sure with good promotion and hype a fight with either Bute or the Super Six winner can get him a nice payday

Bute rehydrates to 177-180 on fight night, is 6'-2" in height. Martinez is 5'-10" and rehydrates to 167 or whatever on fight night (I actually think it's less than that)....he'd be more of a midget against any of the smw's than Pac or May would be against him. He'd have a 2" height advantage over Floyd but he would be leveling the playing field by having to lose almost 10 pounds of pure muscle to get back to 150 lbs. Dude stated that he was already at around 4-5% body fat at most......in order to make 168, he would have to add another 8 pounds of muscle to his small frame in order to reach smw on top of having all the other things going against him.

Dropping to 150 lbs for either Pac or Floyd is a compromise on the part of both parties.....going up in weight only means that Martinez puts every single advantage in favor of any opponent he would fight there. They would be at optimal speed, power, height, reach, and health, while Martinez would be like Arthur Abraham fighting those dudes.....hasn't worked out too well for him there either.

[SixFootGiant]

Bute rehydrates to 177-180 on fight night, is 6'-2" in height. Martinez is 5'-10" and rehydrates to 167 or whatever on fight night....he'd be more of a midget against any of the smw's than Pac or May would be against him. He'd have a 2" height advantage over Floyd but he would be leveling the playing field by having to lose almost 10 pounds of pure muscle to get back to 150 lbs. Dude stated that he was already at around 4-5% body fat at most......in order to make 168, he would have to add another 8 pounds of muscle to his small frame in order to reach smw on top of having all the other things going against him.

Dropping to 150 lbs for either Pac or Floyd is a compromise on the part of both parties.....going up in weight only means that Martinez puts every single advantage in favor of any opponent he would fight there. They would be at optimal speed, power, height, reach, and health, while Martinez would be like Arthur Abraham fighting those dudes.....hasn't worked out too well for him there either.

Good ****, appreciate it. Makes a lot of sense

[Khalid X]

Bute rehydrates to 177-180 on fight night, is 6'-2" in height. Martinez is 5'-10" and rehydrates to 167 or whatever on fight night (I actually think it's less than that)....he'd be more of a midget against any of the smw's than Pac or May would be against him. He'd have a 2" height advantage over Floyd but he would be leveling the playing field by having to lose almost 10 pounds of pure muscle to get back to 150 lbs. Dude stated that he was already at around 4-5% body fat at most......in order to make 168, he would have to add another 8 pounds of muscle to his small frame in order to reach smw on top of having all the other things going against him.

Dropping to 150 lbs for either Pac or Floyd is a compromise on the part of both parties.....going up in weight only means that Martinez puts every single advantage in favor of any opponent he would fight there. They would be at optimal speed, power, height, reach, and health, while Martinez would be like Arthur Abraham fighting those dudes.....hasn't worked out too well for him there either.

Outside of Pwilliams 2....Martinez has consitantly rehydrated up to 164-166 for pretty much his entire tenure at 154. Bute, However gets up in the mid 180's.