Comments Thread For: Martinez's Adviser: Mayweather-Pacquiao Won't Happen

[edgarg]

The - a different split - is part of the reason why Bob Arum doesn't want the fight. When he keeps fights within Top Rank (as he's made Mosley and Marquez do before their fights), he's getting over 27% of 100% of the total revenue (for fights averaging over 1M PPV buys). Against Mayweather, he'd get 27% of Pacquiao's 100%, which would be 50% of the total revenue and increases the risk of his investment.

If the highest potential revenue is dictating my decisions, I'd rather make close to or over 27% of $25-40M on a consistent basis than make 27% of $40-60M and risk hurting my investment more than ever before.

After that, he skews the information of Pacquiao's options to favor what he wants and gets Koncz on board. Arum's bottom line and Koncz' self-interest is dictating Pacquiao's decisions in the boxing arena.

No he doesn't. He gets 27% AFTER the PPV people take 50% of the PPV, and the theatres and other venues take their shares of their incomes.

And if you want to know what Arum does for his share, just look up boxing promoters' dutieson the internet. It will open your eyes. A REAL promoter earns every cent.

[4Corners]

this is the same dude that said that within 15 days of the Barker fight they were gonna announce one of the biggest fights of the last 20 years. We didn't hear ****.

And martinez-floyd would sell less than Ortiz-floyd. No one would buy a martinez ppv. At least Ortiz is mexican and can speak english. Martinez-floyd does less than 1 mill.

No way does Mayweather-Martinez sell 2 million PPV's, but it could sell between 1.2-1.3 million PPV's, especially on Cinco De Mayo.

Like I have said all along, if Pacquiao and his team agree to random testing without a specific cutoff date, the fight will happen. Either Pac really doesn;t want that type of drug testing protocol, or he's getting horrible advice from Arum. I think he's just getting horrible advice from Arum, in all honesty. Floyd wants the fight, he just wants even drug testing ensuring the bout is fair, and Manny wants the fight, but Arum is blocking it.

However, if team pac can't their s**t straight on what they are willing to do with the testing and they don't agree, than Mayweather will easily one-up them and fight Martinez in May, which would be huge as well. Pac would most likely fight Bradley, which would be big and a good pick, but not as good as Martinez. Although, I would give Pac as much credit in beating Bradley as I gave Mayweather for beating Ricky Hatton in 2007. Both were prime, unbeaten, top 10 P4P.

the ball is in Pac's court, always has been in terms of a fight happening. Koncz even said last July that Pacquiao never agreed to do any blood testing within 14 days of the fight, and Ariza isn't helping the situation by saying "We are going to do the tests provided by the boxing commissions". It's just making it look like Pac doesn't want to test without a cutoff date for some reason.

The best thing Pacquiao can do is say "I am willing to do random blood testing up until fight day, with no specific cutoff date" in his post fight interview on November 12. If he doesn't publicly say what he is willing to do or not do, you must assume he doesn't want to test without a cutoff date, which is mad su****ious.

Just agree to all the testing Pac.

[AzteK Warrior]

There is a reason why Cherrypicker Floyd is choosing May 5 (so called Mexican holiday)- and it is because he plans to fight either Ortiz or Oscar - Oscar already said he might do a comeback fight. These 2 think they can hold Boxing hostage by staging their fake fights. If it is not Pacman Floyd fights, then he better GTFO from boxing!!!

[COACH WEBB]

There is a reason why Cherrypicker Floyd is choosing May 5 (so called Mexican holiday)- and it is because he plans to fight either Ortiz or Oscar - Oscar already said he might do a comeback fight. These 2 think they can hold Boxing hostage by staging their fake fights. If it is not Pacman Floyd fights, then he better GTFO from boxing!!!

huh?

[Hougigo]

It's all about the $... I think the very least either man will take is 50-50... and I bet neither will bend to that no matter what.

[LeadUppercut]

It's all about the $... I think the very least either man will take is 50-50... and I bet neither will bend to that no matter what.

Clearly, Bob Arum doesnt want that fight yet.....

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[maguirre]

Floyd's team is choosing May 5 now before Arum does.

Meaning, it's not gonna be Mayweather - Pacquiao.

;-)

[jrosales13]

If Marquez is competitive at this point in his career, Pac doesn't beat Mayweather. Pac and his team have done a very nice job of avoiding the Marquez rematches until they think he's gotten older. The first fight against JMM, he was in his latter prime and they fought a draw. They waited 4 years, until JMM was no longer prime for the rematch. They found out Marquez was not prime, but still really good. Then, they wait another 3 1/2 years for the rd fight, until Marquez isn't even THAT good anymore. It's no coincidence.

If Mayweather-Pacquiao doesn't happen, I see a Bradley fight or Cotto rematch. Pac would likely ask Cotto to come back down to 147 though, which would be even worse then the fight itself. Cotto hasn't been s**t since he got KO'd by Margarito, everyone knows that. I'd like to see Alvarez fight Cotto at 154, but doubt that will happen either. Pacquiao-Cotto 2 would probably still sell 1.1-1.2 million PPV's, but it's just a fight that doesn't need to happen. I still think Bradley is a possibility. If Pac fought Bradley, he would get about as much props as when Floyd fought Hatton, which is a really good win. Bradley is prime, unbeaten, top 10 P4P.

On the other side, I still could possibly see Mayweather-Martinez at 150-154. Granted, he wouldn't get nearly as much credit if it was at 150, but it would still be a good fight. 154 is the most fair and equal weight though. I don't see Floyd taking 12+ months off anymore, and Khan won't be available until at least late summer/early fall 2012. We already know Floyd is fight on Cinco De Mayo at the MGM GRAND, and who else is there besides Pac or Martinez??? I don't see Floyd settling for Berto, especially since he just beat Ortiz, who beat Berto.

All things aside, if Pac agrees to random testing without a specific cutoff date, the fight will happen.

Pac waited 4 years to rematch JMM? Umm...No...It was the other way around. Pac offered an immediate rematch and it was JMM who said thanks but no thanks and took his talents to Indonesia waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy less money.

Lets not re-write history.

[IMDAZED]

Pac waited 4 years to rematch JMM? Umm...No...It was the other way around. Pac offered an immediate rematch and it was JMM who said thanks but no thanks and took his talents to Indonesia waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy less money.

Lets not re-write history.

Agreed. Bad business decision by Marquez and Beristain who was his manager at the time or something. I forget. Marquez could've fought Hamed too, if I remember correctly. As great as he is, I still rank him a notch below his contemporaries such as Morales and Barrera. That said, this third bout should've happened in 2008/2009. I don't blame Pacquiao, necessarily. As Marquez made a bad business decision after their first fight, Pacquiao made a good one after their second. Diaz then Oscar. Don't think anyone can really complain about that. But the timing of this fight right here? Plenty to complain about.

[IronDanHamza]

Agreed. Bad business decision by Marquez and Beristain who was his manager at the time or something. I forget. Marquez could've fought Hamed too, if I remember correctly. As great as he is, I still rank him a notch below his contemporaries such as Morales and Barrera. That said, this third bout should've happened in 2008/2009. I don't blame Pacquiao, necessarily. As Marquez made a bad business decision after their first fight, Pacquiao made a good one after their second. Diaz then Oscar. Don't think anyone can really complain about that. But the timing of this fight right here? Plenty to complain about.

No doubt about that.