i think tyson and oscar have crossed over as celebrities like actors and musicians. as for pac and floyd, they're still stuck in the sports world. so no, pac and floyd have not reached that level and i don't think they ever will.
As big as they are, have Pacquiao & Mayweather reached Tyson & De La Hoya yet?
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floyd also has recorded a rap song.Comment
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Mike Tyson and Oscar brought in even non boxing fans. Oscar has made more money than anyone in the sport so far. While Floyd is a GREAT salesman, Oscar had they good guy/pretty boy image(and was damn good in his day), that was such a great sell, that you had the people who hated Oscar because he was a pretty boy that could fight that would pay to see him lose. Floyd has the same deal only Oscar attracted women. Manny is a huge international sensation, but doesn't have the charm that Oscar had here in the states.
Iron Mike, Oscar, Manny, and Floyd are big time earners, but Tyson, and Oscar are still the kings when it comes to PPV and total revenue. Both Mike and Oscar had most of the boxing community behind them, and were in a sense...the beginning of the PPV era. Tyson started the PPV era, Oscar took it to a whole another level.Comment
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Put a prime Oscar in today and he alone will bring in 1.5 mil ppv buys. I think they are both great ppv generators however it like another poster said, put them both against an unknown bum and let's see if they can generate 1.5+ mil buysComment
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could/did dlh ever generate 1.5+ mill buys against bums???Comment
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In terms of status, each is different.
Tyson is an icon and always will be.
Oscar- Olympic Gold, Prizefighter, now Promoter. His name is tied to this generations name of boxers.
(Hopefully his talks of a comeback are not true- he would get beat down again- haha.)
Manny has done nothing but good things for boxing. When he is done then we can reflect back. But his successes out of the ring as a politician and endorser of different products he will stay rich and popular.
Floyd will be remembered as having tremendous skill in this generation of boxers. But that skill will be remembered as being mostly untested in the later and heavier part of his career. Hopefully Floyd is getting smart with his money, IMHO without boxing in the ring his odds of $ from endorsements is not enough for his "lifestyle".Comment
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What is big ?
My humble meaning about big is ;
being able to throw all valid shots in boxing good, hard and straight so to speak..
Meaning a left and right jab; either which way, good and stiff.
a left and right hook; good and with strength.
a left and right uppercut; good and with strength
an left and right overhead shot punch good and with strenght.
commanding powerfull bodyshots with both arms..
The upperbody movements, not only the north.south,west east movements but all else in between whenever needed swiftly to be excecuted . And not to forget those natural boxing legmovements.
There are not many fighters who have all these qualities packed up at their disposal, during the course of a fight.
I'd say that's not what's meant by BIG in this issue.
Its about the money than.
My answer to this is that Mayweather surpassed them all, they call him "money mayweather" right, the best with him is yet to come if you ask me ?Last edited by AntiRacist; 10-30-2011, 08:58 PM.Comment
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