As big as they are, have Pacquiao & Mayweather reached Tyson & De La Hoya yet?

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  • RL_GMA
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    #21
    Originally posted by SyrianKid
    You have to be a boxing fan to know who Oscar De La Hoya is , worldwide .
    Do you have a Census report backing that claim or simply just being opinionated? Boxing is a global sport and at least where Boxing is some what relevant, De La Hoya's name is known, similar to how Leonard, Ali, and Tyson's names where in their time. If you're talking about the communities of Yichang, China and or Sisimiut, Greenland not knowing about De La Hoya, then you may be right, as they may look at you odd if asked about Ali and Tyson.
    Last edited by RL_GMA; 10-30-2011, 05:06 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by RL_GMA
      Do you have a Census report backing that claim or simply just being opinionated? Boxing is a global sport and at least where Boxing is some what relevant, De La Hoya's name is known, similar to how Leonard, Ali, and Tyson's names where in their time. If you're talking about the communities of Yichang, China and or Sisimiut, Greenland not knowing about De La Hoya, then you may be right




      Boxing is not as popular as before , maybe in the USA it is , but not worldwide .


      The only known boxers worldwide are Tyson and Ali , you ask anybody and they know who they are .

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      • apokalips
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        #23
        Speaking from the UK. Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson are on a different level to eeeeeeeeveryone I would say.

        De La Hoya is probably less known here than Mayweather from my reckoning. I hardly heard many randomers talking about Boxing for years (unless it was a British boxer or Tyson) until Mayweather became big and after the Hatton fight I heard more and more people mention Floyd. Similar thing with Pacquiao.

        I hardly ever hear people mention Oscar, but that might be my own personal experiences. The media nowadays cover boxing a bit more but Mayweather is definitely the most promoted non-brit and has been on Sky Sports News a few times, followed by the Klitschko's recently, who have been on Ringside as well as Sky Sports News. Actually Oscar has also been on Sky Sports News not too long ago.

        Anyways enough rambling I would say over here Mayweather and probably Pacquiao too are both at least on the same level of fame as Oscar, although I would say they are more known.

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        • Zarco
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          #24
          Originally posted by SyrianKid
          Boxing is not as popular as before , maybe in the USA it is , but not worldwide .


          The only known boxers worldwide are Tyson and Ali , you ask anybody and they know who they are .
          I agree with the second part, but boxing is actually more popular outside of the USA. The media coverage it gets in other countries is way above the USA's coverage.
          Originally posted by FirePunch
          Pacman is right on tysons level about to surpass him .. if you don't admit that then your both blind and ******ed. Pacman is probably one of the most famous faces in this planted history ..... go look at most peoples facebook and you'll are pacman as favorite athlete.

          Pacman is the sole reason for boxings resurgence.

          When you have people from every corner on earth famous actors, politicians, presidents world leaders. Top famous athletes all begging to meet you. Thats right Manny has reached icon status the face of boxing god and a damn good one . ......

          Mayweather. On the other hand is mostly known in just the other us. By african americans. Very limited fanbase. .....
          I havent used this term in a while, but here is another perfect example of a "pacxing" fan
          Last edited by Zarco; 10-30-2011, 05:53 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by apokalips
            Speaking from the UK. Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson are on a different level to eeeeeeeeveryone I would say.

            De La Hoya is probably less known here than Mayweather from my reckoning. I hardly heard many randomers talking about Boxing for years (unless it was a British boxer or Tyson) until Mayweather became big and after the Hatton fight I heard more and more people mention Floyd. Similar thing with Pacquiao.

            I hardly ever hear people mention Oscar, but that might be my own personal experiences. The media nowadays cover boxing a bit more but Mayweather is definitely the most promoted non-brit and has been on Sky Sports News a few times, followed by the Klitschko's recently, who have been on Ringside as well as Sky Sports News. Actually Oscar has also been on Sky Sports News not too long ago.

            Anyways enough rambling I would say over here Mayweather and probably Pacquiao too are both at least on the same level of fame as Oscar, although I would say they are more known.
            Tremendously accurate post Bro.

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              #26
              Seriously, these guys wouldn't be where they are(Popularity wise) if it wasn't for Oscar. Oscar has/had everything both these guys have in terms of loyal fans, haters, women fans, media hype and marketability. Oscar was a star since Barcelona and it led all the way through his retirement.

              Tyson is on another level. May and Manny aren't even close to him, in my opinion

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                #27
                In terms of status, each is different.

                Tyson is an icon and always will be.

                Oscar- Olympic Gold, Prizefighter, now Promoter. His name is tied to this generations name of boxers.
                (Hopefully his talks of a comeback are not true- he would get beat down again- haha.)

                Manny has done nothing but good things for boxing. When he is done then we can reflect back. But his successes out of the ring as a politician and endorser of different products he will stay rich and popular.

                Floyd will be remembered as having tremendous skill in this generation of boxers. But that skill will be remembered as being mostly untested in the later and heavier part of his career. Hopefully Floyd is getting smart with his money, IMHO without boxing in the ring his odds of $ from endorsements is not enough for his "lifestyle".

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                • Zarco
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by hhs661
                  Seriously, these guys wouldn't be where they are(Popularity wise) if it wasn't for Oscar. Oscar has/had everything both these guys have in terms of loyal fans, haters, women fans, media hype and marketability. Oscar was a star since Barcelona and it led all the way through his retirement.

                  Tyson is on another level. May and Manny aren't even close to him, in my opinion
                  Exactly! As much as Dan Rafael has a feud with Oscar, he said it best "@OscarDeLaHoya The biggest of his time and if he didnt give Mayweather and Pacquiao fights they would never have become as big."

                  I stand by my case that they were on Miguel Cottos level before Oscar, after Oscar they became mega stars. Even if you want to say that Pacquiao is a big name world wide guess after what fight that started happening?

                  And Tyson is above all them by miles and they will never surpass him. New fanboys to the sport dont understand the extent of his stardom.

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                  • lets rumble
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                    #29
                    floyd weather you like him or not is the biggest money generator in the history of the sport , so i think yeah he is passed tyson and oscar. as for pac the only way he can generate the ppv numbers and money that floyd gets is to fight floyd......

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Zarco
                      I agree with the second part, but boxing is actually more popular outside of the USA. The media coverage it gets in other countries is way above the USA's coverage.
                      I havent used this term in a while, but here is another perfect example of a "pacxing" fan
                      This is simply not true. What countries are you talking about?

                      In America both pac and Floyd have become really big names. I could be wrong but I think Oscar is still more famous than Pac and Floyd, but I guess they are all somewhat on the same level.

                      Nobody beats Tyson though. Globally only Tyson is a huge name that ppl who aren't even boxing fans know of. Tyson is like Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods. He's on that level....in boxing only Ali can match Tyson's fame worldwide.

                      Tyson is on another level. May and Manny aren't even close to him, in my opinion
                      That's not an opinion...That's a FACT!!
                      Last edited by VatoMulatto; 10-30-2011, 07:45 PM.

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