List the most complete fighters you've seen

[LeG00N]

i'd also say Chavez was more complete than Vitali.

Chavez had everything. Offense,defense, ring generalship, ring IQ, heart,

a variety of punches, not just the 1-2 or left hook.
He had a great body attack. Which some of the boxers TS mentioned lacked

[Everywhere]

Plenty of heavyweights, some of them ATGs, were vicious bodypunchers.

Bowe raked Holyfield to the body in his two wins over him. Frazier was an ATG body puncher who constantly scored to the body in the FOTC, and it would've won him the Thrilla if not for Ali's inhuman ability to absorb body shots. Tyson ravaged numerous guys to the body. Marciano and Dempsey were very effective bodypunchers. Fitz won the HW title on a bodypunch. Louis was a good bodypuncher and won the HW title a combo where he went to the body and then the head, In the last great HW fight, Liakhovich destroyed Brewster's left side with right hooks. Even Lewis, not known for body shots, got Tua's attention early on with a body (borderline low) shot.

Heavyweights are no different, no one likes it to the body.

I knew when I was posting that, I was setting myself up...I'm about 16 beers in, and I got nothing right now except rants about leaning on somebody and body punching...placehold this til tmrw, because I will respond and ressurect this awesome response tmrw with counter-arguments (for some, Fitzsimmons I got nothing...) I'm just gonna temporarily put up the placard.

[Thread Stealer]

I knew when I was posting that, I was setting myself up...I'm about 16 beers in, and I got nothing right now except rants about leaning on somebody and body punching...placehold this til tmrw, because I will respond and ressurect this awesome response tmrw with counter-arguments (for some, Fitzsimmons I got nothing...) I'm just gonna temporarily put up the placard.

So long as you're drunk, you still win and are not "owned". I wish I was drunk right now.

Impressive tolerance also.

[The Gambler1981]

Heavyweights are no different, no one likes it to the body.

Famous Joe Louis quote when asked about not liking getting hit in the body "Who likes getting hit in the body"

As true today as it was 80 years ago~

[RubenSonny]

Azumah Nelson, Holyfield was also had a wide range of skills for a HW. Some fighters mentioned really shouldn't be in these discussions.

[The Gambler1981]

Azumah Nelson, Holyfield was also had a wide range of skills for a HW. Some fighters mentioned really shouldn't be in these discussions.

Depends on how you define complete.

Does a guy have to be able to do everything well, or can a guy do a few thing average and a few things great that really cover up any deficiencies.

If a guy has flaws but they are nicely checked by strengths I have no issue calling a guy complete because they have no real weakness from those flaws thus have a complete style that accounts for most situations.

I can understand a harsher judging on the matter though because complete is a pretty strong thing to call a fighter.

[Johnwoo8686]

Just the fact that you have Hopkins on a list of complete fighters is enough to ignore this thread. Wow. Really?

I wouldn't say he's the most complete fighter when it comes to physical attributes but when it comes to ring intelligence, there aren't too many people more complete than Bernard Hopkins.

If you think Mayweather deserves to be on the list than you should agree Hopkins should be on the list as well. Both fighters are the best at what they do but one of them is simply more blessed with physical gifts, such as speed, than the other.

[Squizz]

Azumah Nelson, Holyfield was also had a wide range of skills for a HW. Some fighters mentioned really shouldn't be in these discussions.

I was waiting for somebody to mention Holyfield. He wasn't really great defensively, but his chin was granite. His ability to absorb a punch was uncanny. It was almost his entire defensive basis. He could shake punches like no other.

Impressive offensive arsenal as well. Not a devastating puncher, but he could put punches together, and put you away.

Like someone like say, Meldrick Taylor though, I think his main downfall was his propensity to mix it up much more than was necessary. He should have boxed from a distance more, IMO.

[WARQUEZ]

Morales, Duran, and JMM come to mind.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pernell Whitaker, B-Hop (Prime), Floyd Mayweather and Roberto Duran.