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  • kentaro9
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    #51
    Cu****uy : You created a new username just to attack my post anonymously? lmao That's pathetic....

    This is my 1st ever post on this forum infact i regestered 2 days ago so that I could correct you and had to wait for access to post which happened today, there is no alias!

    Im not attacking your post but i do stand bye my statement that you need to do more research on Ismael Salas before writting a post that infers he is nothing but an amatuer trainer with little pro experience.
    I take note that there isnt much info of Salas's past acheivements but it really isnt that hard to find out if you really wanted too!

    My question to you is: how many years did Salas spend as an amateur trainer and how many as a pro trainer?

    Salas started his professional career in the early 90's and has worked mainly in Thailand and Japan subsequently one could say his pro career could actually be longer than when he worked in the Cuban Amatuer system in the 1980's

    If you can teach me how to attach photos ill gladly post photos of Salas with all of his Thai champions together at one time all holding there belts with him!

    Kentaro

    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
    You created a new username just to attack my post anonymously? lmao That's pathetic....

    There's precious little information on Ismael Salas on the Internet. I confess that I'm not obsessed with getting to know every last detail about the man. I made a simple statement, "Ismael Salas has spent nearly his entire career training amateur fighters." Although this statement may not be perfectly accurate, and might have been worded differently, it is essentially true.

    Back when Gamboa took Salas on again as his trainer, I did some research on Ismael (reading whatever was available). The sources I read provided the information I repeated in my earlier post. Simply because Salas has trained all these world champs "from scratch," does not make my statement incorrect. To the best of my knowledge, Salas spent the better part of his career as an amateur coach in the Cuban system. Is this not correct? You seem to know quite a bit about him. My question to you is: how many years did Salas spend as an amateur trainer and how many as a pro trainer?

    I did a search on some of the names of the fighters you provided. I found next to nothing on Katzuko Ioka. I dug up one post that cites him as being 6-0 back in 2007, and one mention of him on Youtube. That's it. There is no information of Ioka on Boxrec. There is no mention of Pitchit Noi on Boxrec, either. There was one article that mentions Noi and Salas's professional success on the Internet. I know Ismael in fact trained Danny Green.

    If I'm wrong in my research, then I'll gladly stand corrected. But, please, have the guts to address me using your real handle. Or at least be respectful, as a real man should.

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    • 537Bwouaye
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      #52
      Originally posted by kentaro9
      Cu****uy, You need to do some research before you go writting a post like "Salas has spent nearly his entire career training amateur fighters"

      World champions literally produced from scratch........

      WBC 105 Katzuto Ioka
      WBA 108lb Pitchit Noi
      WBA 112lb San S Ploenchit
      IBF 112lb Pitchit Sitbanprachang
      WBA 112lb Yoktai Sit O
      WBA 118lb (2 time) Daorung Cho Siriwat


      Other WC Salas has guided to a World title...

      WBA 126lb Yuirorkis Gamboa
      WBC 147lm Selcuk Aydin
      WBA 175lb Danny Green

      Salas was the 1996 WBA trainer of the year and has worked with past greats like Terry Norris and more.

      The reason for the Salas/Gamboa split is Gamboa trying to reduce Salas's trainers percentage from 10% to 5%!

      There you heard it 1st!
      Don't you see what's wrong with your own pattern? Practically every fighter you mentionned fought like under 100lb, and Gamboa is trying to climb to the higher weight classes right now.

      This being said, I have nothing against Salas, I think he's a great trainer!! And I thank you for the 5%/10% split info.
      Last edited by 537Bwouaye; 10-28-2011, 02:05 AM.

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      • kentaro9
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        #53
        I suggest anyone looking for more info on Ismael Salas just go have a look at his facebook page!

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        • kentaro9
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          #54
          Trust me gamboa aint going far when moving up weight divisions 130lb max the guy is small 135lb no chance simply to small to compete with true lightweight champs.



          Originally posted by 537Bwouaye
          Don't you see what's wrong with your own pattern? Practically every fighter you mentionned fought like under 100lb, and Gamboa is trying to climb to the higher weight classes right now.

          This being said, I have nothing against Salas, I think he's a great trainer!! And I thank you for the 5%/10% split info.
          Last edited by kentaro9; 10-28-2011, 07:03 AM.

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #55
            Originally posted by kentaro9
            This is my 1st ever post on this forum infact i regestered 2 days ago so that I could correct you and had to wait for access to post which happened today, there is no alias!

            Im not attacking your post but i do stand bye my statement that you need to do more research on Ismael Salas before writting a post that infers he is nothing but an amatuer trainer with little pro experience.
            I take note that there isnt much info of Salas's past acheivements but it really isnt that hard to find out if you really wanted too!

            Salas started his professional career in the early 90's and has worked mainly in Thailand and Japan subsequently one could say his pro career could actually be longer than when he worked in the Cuban Amatuer system in the 1980's

            If you can teach me how to attach photos ill gladly post photos of Salas with all of his Thai champions together at one time all holding there belts with him!

            Kentaro
            As previously stated, my understanding of Ismael's professional career versus his amateur background is based on a source I read some time ago. I admit that I didn't know Salas had experience with all the boxers you mentioned. Unfortunately, it is indeed difficult to find detailed information on Ismael and even his champion fighters. As I mentioned, Boxrec doesn't even recognize at least two of the names you cited.

            It's also true that my impression was/is that Salas has considerably more experience as an amateur coach than as a pro trainer. It sounds as though you don't have a definitive answer to my question, either. You're citing broad periods of time and using speculation to uphold your argument. Unless you can provide more detail, my belief stands that Ismael has more experience as an amateur coach.

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            Thanks for providing some useful input. I just have a hard time with discourtesy...there's too much of that going on around here.

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            • kentaro9
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              #56
              Cu****uy no offence but who cares how long he's trained ams vs pros!
              He started training pros in Thailand upon defecting from Cuba in 1992, 19yrs ago he's now mid 50's you do the math.
              It wouldnt matter if he's only trained pro's for 5yrs the fact is he produces champions if not from scratch both amatuer and pro and is simply one of the best all round trainers in the world yet harldly known due to working in Asia.

              Sorry if you thought my post was being discourtious!

              kentaro

              ps cant add pics due to not having posted 15 times!



              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              As previously stated, my understanding of Ismael's professional career versus his amateur background is based on a source I read some time ago. I admit that I didn't know Salas had experience with all the boxers you mentioned. Unfortunately, it is indeed difficult to find detailed information on Ismael and even his champion fighters. As I mentioned, Boxrec doesn't even recognize at least two of the names you cited.

              It's also true that my impression was/is that Salas has considerably more experience as an amateur coach than as a pro trainer. It sounds as though you don't have a definitive answer to my question, either. You're citing broad periods of time and using speculation to uphold your argument. Unless you can provide more detail, my belief stands that Ismael has more experience as an amateur coach.

              The icons on the top of the "Reply to Thread" box allow you to insert links and images via URL. Pass your cursor over them to see which are which.

              Thanks for providing some useful input. I just have a hard time with discourtesy...there's too much of that going on around here.

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