Who has enough of Hopkins' hype?

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  • edgarg
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    #31
    Originally posted by Nick Name
    I watched the Hopkins-Dawson fight: Hopkins holds and pushes definately too much for my taste, comes forward with the head, and showed poor power.
    It's very fashionable among boxing fans to say that Hopkins "schools" his opponents. He quite made a trademark out of this sentence. He's also very good at licking HBO ****s, which makes him propaganda material for Larry Mercùnt and co.

    To me, schooling an opponent means "teaching him a thing or two about boxing"... It sure doesn't mean acting, holding, pushing, headbutting etc. I think that Hopkins is not much more than a good, slick hireling with a great fitness coach.
    He may also have a good PEDS pusher........A far greater than Hopkins, Holyfield was reported to have been buying PES under the assumed name of Evan Fields.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ИATAS206
      don't ever watch any oldschool boxing. You'll be shocked at how many guys made hopkins look like a Saint
      But in those days,either the mafia ruled, or regulations were slack, and sometimes the fights progressed that way because of prior grudge agreement between the fighters. People came to see a fight, and on occasion, when the fouling became too egregious, the ref stepped in and DQ. But we can never know if it was previously arranged or genuine. That's how dirty boxing was. It's squeaky clean today compared to then.

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      • -EX-
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        #33
        Some of his fights are stinkers sure, but he schooled Trinidad in every sense of the word...he schooled Pavlik...whooped Pascal's ass among others...

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        • Nick Name
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          #34
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          He did school Glen Johnson, William Joppy, Tito Trinidad, Antonio Tarver, Kelly Pavlik and Jean Pascal with no dirty tactics, and you can't watch any of those fights and say he didn't win fair and square.

          But when he does his WWE-style acting and dirty fighting, they make him look really bad. Like against Allen[acting] Winky[dirty fighting], Calzaghe[acting], Jones II[acting], and Dawson[acting].

          You gotta love him and hate him. He went from giving a loveable performance against Pascal, to a possible Oscar winning role in the movie "Believe It Or Not" co-starring Chad Dawson. It would be a shame if he doesn't win an Oscar for best actor for that role. I mean getting nominated is already a success, but if he doesn't win it, it'll be a robbery.
          That's what I'm talking about.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Nick Name
            I watched the Hopkins-Dawson fight: Hopkins holds and pushes definately too much for my taste, comes forward with the head, and showed poor power.
            It's very fashionable among boxing fans to say that Hopkins "schools" his opponents. He quite made a trademark out of this sentence. He's also very good at licking HBO ****s, which makes him propaganda material for Larry Mercùnt and co.

            To me, schooling an opponent means "teaching him a thing or two about boxing"... It sure doesn't mean acting, holding, pushing, headbutting etc. I think that Hopkins is not much more than a good, slick hireling with a great fitness coach.
            You must be new to boxing?

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            • Nick Name
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              #36
              Now I don't want this to end up as if I'd called Hopkins a bum... He's a multiple world champion after all, and also did some great wins... The liver uppercut to De La Hoya was genius... The problem with these Golden Boys (De La Hoya, Trinidad, Roy Jones, etc), is that they did nothing but boxing in life since an early age: they've been pampered and treated like superstars since their early teens, and they end up living for boxing... I mean not taking it as a hobby or a job... But making it a reason to survive. They need the approval of the fans not just to work, but to feel strong and good to themselves, they make a personal thing out of it, and they end up drained by every drop of soul by the age of 34... Hopkins instead has a different personal background, which allowed him to take boxing for what it really is (to him): a job. He'd be alright with himself even as a cab driver, he doesn't need the approval of the corwd. This mindset made him last longer than other fighters that were still better than him as boxers, but they were more fragile psychologically.

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              • Nick Name
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                #37
                Originally posted by OG Wenger
                You must be new to boxing?
                Well I've started my amateur career last year, I've only got one fight in the record, but I'm training for the next one. I've started my training for boxing 5 years ago by now. In a wide sense, yes you can call me a newbie.

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                  #38
                  You gathered all that from roughly around 5 minutes of fighting, damn, you remind me of my uncle when he's drunk. Knows all about a car just by looking at it!!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Nick Name
                    Well I've started my amateur career last year, I've only got one fight in the record, but I'm training for the next one. I've started my training for boxing 5 years ago by now. In a wide sense, yes you can call me a newbie.
                    Ok well you do know Hopkins is a notorious slow starter right? He spends the first 2 rounds reading what his opponent is trying to do. Pascal beat the **** out of him for 2 rounds and even knocked him down twice but once he figured him out we all saw what happened.

                    Watch his fights against Trinidad, Tarver, Pavlik and Pascal and you will see what getting schooled means. Also take in to consideration that most of the time he is nearly 20 years old than his opponents.

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                    • Nick Name
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                      #40
                      Sorry but I can't answer to all the desperate trolls that roll around.

                      The Dawson fight is not the only Hopkins' fight I've seen, but I've judged what I've seen in those first minutes. I know the regular Hopkins' fan tho: a guy with poor personality who's in awe of Hopkins' flamboyant style and takes all his dirty moves as miracles.

                      P.S. that Hopkins is a slow starter is plain bull****, having seen the fact that he often tries to catch his opponent cold in the first round, as he did against Calzaghe. And ended up losing, but Hopkins' fans still call it a win.

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