Larry Holmes vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  • 4Corners
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    #41
    Larry Holmes is one of the fighters I would definitely favor over the Klitschko's H2H and prime for prime.

    Holmes, as well as Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis are the guys I'd favor H2H over either Klitschko.

    What's funny is that Vitali was usually always seen as the better Klitschko, but who has the better wins??? I think Wlad beating David Haye and Chris Byrd are the two best wins on either guys resume.

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    • Mr. Invincible
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      What about using the old rules in the underground chamber, hands dipped in glass and what not.

      As for an actual real fight it could go either way to me, I think Holmes jab would be very effective in disrupting Vitali and set up other stuff but Vitali is tough minded enough to take that fire to get his. Like I said to me it would be an interesting contest, I could see either guy winning.
      Thats fair. And in underground rules, Vitali definitely wins because there would be no ref's to stop the fight on cuts. Of course, he could lose because he tears a rotator cuff. I will be realistic.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
        No, the Lennox rematch is the only one that really mattered.
        but it proves nothing for Lennox. You ***ing troll.

        You telling a prime or close to prime vitali to go beat up an old pass prime fighter.

        Wtf is the point of that? So racist fans on youtube can write more shyt like
        BEAT THAT COON'???


        Prime for Prime lennox will flatten your kbro boys you mongoloird.


        Prime Lennox will put Wlad through some kind of 5 minute coma beating

        Prime Lennox will do what he did against vitali except it will be for both eyes.
        Vitali will be blind and drinking shyt through a straw like that Nigel Benn victim



        OH ALSO I FORGOT

        OLD ASS Dino lewis tko6

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          #44
          Also that random black guy that they showed that koed vitali with his toes or something?

          If he wanted to be a boxer he will ko wlad in 2 punches

          that guy looks straight up nuts

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          • Mr. Invincible
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            #45
            Originally posted by 4CornersKid
            Larry Holmes is one of the fighters I would definitely favor over the Klitschko's H2H and prime for prime.

            Holmes, as well as Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis are the guys I'd favor H2H over either Klitschko.

            What's funny is that Vitali was usually always seen as the better Klitschko, but who has the better wins??? I think Wlad beating David Haye and Chris Byrd are the two best wins on either guys resume.
            The only fighters I honestly believe could have genuinely beaten the Klitschko's prime for prime are Ali, Holmes and Lennox Lewis.

            I rank Vitali as better than Wladimir no matter what the resume's say. I know he's better and would always beat Wlad. I say each of those fighters could feasably beat prime Wlad 5 out of ten times but lose to prime Vitali 7 or 8 times out of ten. Wlad hits harder and is faster but Vitali is better in every other aspect.

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              #46
              Originally posted by polarcub
              but it proves nothing for Lennox. You ***ing troll.

              You telling a prime or close to prime vitali to go beat up an old pass prime fighter.

              Wtf is the point of that? So racist fans on youtube can write more shyt like
              BEAT THAT COON'???


              Prime for Prime lennox will flatten your kbro boys you mongoloird.


              Prime Lennox will put Wlad through some kind of 5 minute coma beating

              Prime Lennox will do what he did against vitali except it will be for both eyes.
              Vitali will be blind and drinking shyt through a straw like that Nigel Benn victim



              OH ALSO I FORGOT

              OLD ASS Dino lewis tko6
              What makes you think you can talk with the big boys on here? Don't you have a website you can go on and talk barbies or something?

              I have said nothing malicious to anyone on this thread and never start off doing that so I suggest you stfu while you are ahead because It's been clear since you first came on this site that you know very little about boxing other than you want to **** Lennox Lewis. F off.

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              • 4Corners
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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                The only fighters I honestly believe could have genuinely beaten the Klitschko's prime for prime are Ali, Holmes and Lennox Lewis.

                I rank Vitali as better than Wladimir no matter what the resume's say. I know he's better and would always beat Wlad. I say each of those fighters could feasably beat prime Wlad 5 out of ten times but lose to prime Vitali 7 or 8 times out of ten. Wlad hits harder and is faster but Vitali is better in every other aspect.
                I think Vitali is better too, it's just interesting that Wlad has the two best wins.

                I agree on Ali, Holmes, and Lewis beating them Prime for Prime. Foreman could as well, only the 70's Foreman though. Foreman just stalked his opponent around the ring and Wlad has the power to keep Foreman honest, but I really think Foreman would KO Wlad. Vitali, different story, Vitali vs. Foreman prime for prime would be a GREAT FIGHT.

                Bowe as well, is pretty underrated, mainly due to avoiding Lennox Lewis. He did beat Holyfield in his prime 2 of 3.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                  I think Vitali is better too, it's just interesting that Wlad has the two best wins.

                  I agree on Ali, Holmes, and Lewis beating them Prime for Prime. Foreman could as well, only the 70's Foreman though. Foreman just stalked his opponent around the ring and Wlad has the power to keep Foreman honest, but I really think Foreman would KO Wlad. Vitali, different story, Vitali vs. Foreman prime for prime would be a GREAT FIGHT.

                  Bowe as well, is pretty underrated, mainly due to avoiding Lennox Lewis. He did beat Holyfield in his prime 2 of 3.
                  Bowe was good for a spell but Holyfield knocked the prime out of him early.

                  If smallish Holyfield beat the snot out of him, I can imagine either Klitschko would have turned out his lights.

                  Foreman was too one dimensional. He hit like a mule kicks, but those aren't the kind of punches that effect the Klitschko's. It's the ones that they don't see coming. Foreman threw straighter shots his second time around. I love that about him, he reinvented himself.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                    Lol, okay. He sure wanted a Lennox rematch.

                    Lennox does rematches......when Vitali is not involved........even for 20+ million.
                    Of course he wanted the Lennox rematch. He would have his arsehole ripped open as well as his face to make that payday.

                    But the high risk, low reward Pele Reid was too much for him

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by 4CornersKid
                      Larry Holmes is one of the fighters I would definitely favor over the Klitschko's H2H and prime for prime.

                      Holmes, as well as Ali, Foreman, Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis are the guys I'd favor H2H over either Klitschko.

                      What's funny is that Vitali was usually always seen as the better Klitschko, but who has the better wins??? I think Wlad beating David Haye and Chris Byrd are the two best wins on either guys resume.

                      in my experience i've found folks to generally give a greater rating to the resume of wladimir but the nod h2h to vitali

                      i tend to agree with them
                      i think vitali in his prime would knock out his brother. and then he'd have a better resume than his brother.

                      complete speculation, of course.

                      crazy, but that's how i feel about those two


                      in the end what will be remembered is that two brothers ruled (completely dominated, really) the division together. that's pretty damn remarkable.



                      holmes is the #3 HW in my eyes in resume and h2h (behind pre layoff ali and prime louis.)
                      Last edited by New England; 03-26-2012, 03:35 PM.

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