Comments Thread For: Dawson Stops Hopkins, Freak Ending in Two Rounds

[boxingfan_123]

any videos?

[seanusarrilius]

i paid fo this and i am unhappy. Bhop may have made the most of it, h emight have been genuinly injured, but rules are rules and this isnt a TKO either way. ****ing joke tonight, thank god for a decent undercard and linares demarco round 11 was brilliant

[PRITALOMAN]

At least Mayweather took the dirty tactics from Ortiz like a man and continued to fight. On the otherhand, Hopkins premeditates for these type of situations of quick exits when the opportunity presents itself.

[Drunken Cat]

California has a long history of overturning bad calls. They changed Bradley Campbell to a NC, they changed Toney vs Rahman. This will be changed. Id bet money on it.

In hindsight, the commisioner's comments actually seemed to point to this possibility as well. The fact that he didn't let the ref talk, and said that he needed to talk with him first, points to their intention to actually address the situation, and not taint the "jury of public opinion".

[gquezvas]

Bull****.

Please explain me how can it be a TKO when Dawson throw him on the ground with a takedown ? lol.

Stop complaining. Most of you are calling it a cheap way to win a fight but loved it when Mayweather won by cheap shot. Dawson committed no fouls thus making is a LEGAL win. Stop *****ing. Also the PPV wasa not that bad if your a real boxing fan. The DEmarco win was great and Garcia showed he can rocked with the best of them

[LAFIRPO]

I'm not blaming chad either. If he wanted to fight physical, foul or not foul whatever anyone wants to call it, that's fine by me. My issue was with how it ended, how the ref handled the situation and ultimately the ruling.

First of all, we have to hear what others have to say about this. Kermit Cintron defended himself constanly in regards to him wanting to continue. The others came out and spoke, and it was pretty much determined that Cintron quit.

[edgarg]

How did he jump out of the ring? He didn't - that's how. At the end of the day Hopkins haters will believe he quit and others won't. But those who don't are incorrect - watch the replay. Still, Dawson acted like a **** as if he won in good fashion.

He actually did...almost. The very small ref Mills Lane, about 120 lbs soaking wet, got between them when Hopkins was holding and hitting, and pulled him off, and he went straight through the ropes almost a mirror image of Kermit Cintron in the Williams fight. Hopkins then said he'd hurt his back and couldn't get up. He was trying to get an NC or DQ or something, he's always trying. He was OK to get up a minute or two later.

The second (really the first) "injury" bout was with Antwun Echols, I incorrectly said earlier it was again Allen, and Echols threw him down and he said he'd dislocated his shoulder but wanted to fight on. He didn't use it for about a round trying to fake Echols in, buut it didn't work, so he went back to using it. He won the fight.

Sothis is the THIRD time Hopkins has faked an injury trying to get a DQ. He also tried in the calzaghe fight, and a few others too. I think almost every fight.

[La_Vibora]

You guys are ******.

I'm normally a fan of Hopkins (though I do believe he legitimately lost to Calzaghe), but not his dirty tactics. This was not an example of quitting, however.

Dawson picked up Hopkins and threw him on the mat. That's an illegal move in boxing. By rule, Dawson committed a foul. That means any injury or stoppage thereafter requires a 5 minute recovery period, and/or a declaration of No Contest.

The ref went to Hop's corner and asked him, "can you continue?" Bernard replies, CLEAR AS F---ING DAY, "Yes." The ref waives it off anyway and calls it a TKO, because he could see that Hopkins was injured.

So, the facts:

-Hopkins leaned on Dawson; that isn't illegal, but does require separation.
-Dawson tackled Hopkins; that is illegal. Depending on severity, it's a warning, or a point.
-An injury resulted, thus the official asked Hopkins if he could continue. Hopkins said he could. The ref made the call to stop the fight based on the injury, as well as the doctor's quick examination.

THE REF STOPPED THE FIGHT. HOPKINS DID NOT!

So you can stop talking like a bunch of jack-asses. Hopkins didn't quit. He was fouled, and subsequently injured, but plead his case to continue.

I have to agree with this and is essentially what I was saying a few pages back. I think his injury was being a bit exaggerated, but I don't think he expected for the ref to just stop the fight, he expected to get 5 minutes to recover, which I believe the fight would have resumed.

[Abstraction]

Hopkins Fan or Anti Hopkins, Injury or no Injury.

The point is, Officially, Logically, Legally, This can NOT possible be a TKO.

Only Scenario's are: -

a Technical decision - However only 1 round had passed, and it was the second round. Only completion of 4 rounds can a TD be made

a No Contest

a DQ - However a DQ wasnt made because the Ref forgot to caution Dawson after the throw.

a TKO is not possible, so i dont know how it was given, unless for some reason the referee thought that Hopkins was brought to the ground by a punch (which he obviously wasn't)

[cupocity303]

My biggest problem is that Bernard appeared start grimacing before he even landed on his shoulder (Lou Dibella said the same on Twitter)...

Whatever tho...boxing aint boxing anymore...

Wish I came up in the 80's...big fights actually lived up to be big fights back then...

Lou is a known Hopkins hater, they have history, and he got Tunney banned.

Who cares what he says.

Yeah, Hopkins is that quick on his feet, to already start planning mid-air, while falling down, to start grimacing a little earlier in advance.