Paul Williams: How good is he All-Time???

[Double_L]

He's definitely in the top 5,000 fighters of all time.

[jtiger777]

not a top fighter but he was good when he was good.... waste of height and he lost that last fight im still bitter behind that ****

[lefthook2daliva]

Assuming Paul Williams is past it since his KO loss to Martinez (Erislandy Lara schooled him and got robbed), how good was Paul Williams in his prime (2005-2010)???

His notable fights on his resume:

Walter Matthysse- W TKO 10.
Antonio Margarito- W UD 12
Carlos Quintana- L UD 12
Carlos Quintana- W TKO 1
Winky Wright- W UD 12
Sergio Martinez- W MD 12
Kermit Cintron- W TD 4
Sergio Martinez- L KO 2
Erislandy Lara- W MD 12

In his prime, he had wins over Margarito, Quintana, Wright, Martinez, and Cintron. He had losses to Quintana and Martinez. His first fight since his loss to Martinez, he had a very controversial win over Lara, in which he really lost.

In his prime, how good was Paul Williams??? Personally, I would rank him better all time than Margarito, and on par with Cotto. Paul Williams isn't that good anymore, but a few years ago, he was really underrated.

Imo, for whatever reason, he didn't end up being all that...Best name on his resume besides Martinez is Winky and Wink was WAAAAYYY past it when they fought.

In his defense, seems like his career could have been managed better. Jumping around weight divisions and seems like when he wasn't matched that well at his peak. I dunno' it's like they didn't make the most of it when he was hot.

[brains4boxing]

entertaining

he was very entertaining,high drama,dangerous risk 4 reward..all out and beat every1 without trully using his height advantage....say what u want but he beat every1 put in front of him...including martinez and quintana so....1 reason why martinez is where he is today and the best wouldnt fight him....real talk

[waxfondler]

not a top fighter but he was good when he was good.... waste of height and he lost that last fight im still bitter behind that ****

exactly... he had plenty of potential... he has a solid resume though. on paper, he has wins over quintana, cintron, winky, & sergio.... but in reality, quintana & cintron was bleh.... winky was spent.... and sergio was robbed.... definitely, p-will is categorized in the "good" column. LOL

BTW, nice sig photo of tyrone & rashad (photo by loco)... really cool guys, i see them regularly (ASM).

[jtiger777]

exactly... He had plenty of potential... He has a solid resume though. On paper, he has wins over quintana, cintron, winky, & sergio.... But in reality, quintana & cintron was bleh.... Winky was spent.... And sergio was robbed.... Definitely, p-will is categorized in the "good" column. Lol

btw, nice sig photo of tyrone & rashad (photo by loco)... Really cool guys, i see them regularly (asm).

oh wow they are both my fav fighters! They seem cool as hell wish i could train wit them!

[ummeed]

just a few spots above david haye.

[jkaisen41]

Assuming Paul Williams is past it since his KO loss to Martinez (Erislandy Lara schooled him and got robbed), how good was Paul Williams in his prime (2005-2010)???

His notable fights on his resume:

Walter Matthysse- W TKO 10.
Antonio Margarito- W UD 12
Carlos Quintana- L UD 12
Carlos Quintana- W TKO 1
Winky Wright- W UD 12
Sergio Martinez- W MD 12
Kermit Cintron- W TD 4
Sergio Martinez- L KO 2
Erislandy Lara- W MD 12

In his prime, he had wins over Margarito, Quintana, Wright, Martinez, and Cintron. He had losses to Quintana and Martinez. His first fight since his loss to Martinez, he had a very controversial win over Lara, in which he really lost.

In his prime, how good was Paul Williams??? Personally, I would rank him better all time than Margarito, and on par with Cotto. Paul Williams isn't that good anymore, but a few years ago, he was really underrated.

Easily a top 1279 ATG
Hardly a top 824 ATG

[waxfondler]

oh wow they are both my fav fighters! They seem cool as hell wish i could train wit them!

tyrone is super chill. rashad is hilarious.

they train nonstop. these guys are beasts... blackzilians is the clique

[#1Assassin]

we dont really know exactly how good williams was since nobody wanted to fight him at his best weights (147 & 154). we saw glimpses of how great he could be in some fights but also plenty of weaknesses.

it comes down to style as well. williams is one of a kind and there are plenty of great fighters (better than him) that would stand no chance against williams just bcuz of the weird and un conventional style of his.

ppl talk about his lack of defense, but at 147 and 154 his jaw was granite and he had the heart of a lion which made up for much of that (and he could acctually box when he wanted to he just rarely did bcuz he wanted to please the fans).

on top of that he had good hand speed and threw punches non stop for 12 rounds. he presented alot of challenges for fighters, he could fight so well on the inside too. the physical and mental pressure, workrate, size, determination, speed and angles he vrought to the table would be very hard to deal with for alomst any fighter.

imo paul williams will go down as a one of a kind fighter that would present serious problems for almost any atg, but didnt quite reached that level (atg) himself. he will be considered one of the better fighters of his generation. not up there with hopkins, marquez, pacquiao and mayweather but in the next category with guys like cotto, tarver, calzaghe etc.