Comments Thread For: Team Pirog: DiBella Wants $5 Million For Martinez Bout

[KickAzz]

That's what I am talking. You do use common sense, and I do know what you're talking about as well.

it's only common sense if you don't think pirog is a real threat to martinez. If pirog poses no threat to martinez, then why not fight him?

The only diffirence in opinion is the matter of who deserves to fight Sergio and who doesn't.

This is a moot point, since Barker didn't deserve to fight martinez, but still got the shot.

You think it's Pirog becuase of his technique and style, I say it's Mackling and Sturm for their accomplishments.

Any one of them is fine, but why does dibella specifically choose Pirog to duck? it doesn't make sense.

And Again, I don't mind a fight with Pirog, I just don't think it's a must like most people here think.

it's only a must because dibella is making a huge deal about ducking pirog.

If Pirog beats Macklin or Sturm or Lee for that matter. ok,

why? Did Barker beat Macklin or Sturm or Lee?

Pirog is making his case to challenge Sergio. But beating Danny Jacons in my opinion is not enough.

who did Barker beat to make his case to challenge Sergio??? if no one, then why does Pirog have to make his case?

[richardt]

Personally, I would love to see any one of these fights: Pirog, Martinez, Quillin. Quillin is a slick boxer, Martinez is a clever boxer, and Pirog is an awkward boxer. Be a good round robin, unless the styles don't mesh for some reason.

[richardt]

Retn - don't forget the business side. Pirog would have to make a case over Barker if Barker was willing to accept a lot less than Pirog and other details of the negotiations. People who constantly compare why one boxer is picked over perhaps a more deserving fighter DO NOT UNDERSTAND the business side and workings! How many fighters were claimed to have ducked another ONLY TO FIGHT THEM?????

[Via]

This sounds like a duck

[richardt]

If in 6 months, Martinez does not accept a fight with Pirog, I'll be glad to critisize him..maybe sooner but fights like these do HAPPEN! There were MANY drop offs with Holyfield/Lewis, Mosley/Mayweather and the list goes on and on. Only true Ignorants don't recognize that these are the phases of boxing.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That's what I am talking. You do use common sense, and I do know what you're talking about as well.

The only diffirence in opinion is the matter of who deserves to fight Sergio and who doesn't.

You think it's Pirog becuase of his technique and style, I say it's Mackling and Sturm for their accomplishments.

And Again, I don't mind a fight with Pirog, I just don't think it's a must like most people here think. If Pirog beats Macklin or Sturm or Lee for that matter. ok, Pirog is making his case to challenge Sergio. But beating Danny Jacons in my opinion is not enough.

Theres no deserve about it. Did Barker deserve it? Like i said, theres a retort to every excuse you have come up with. Deserve? LOL...as a boxing fan you should want the best and most intruiging fight. And as you have already conceded, its Martinez vs Pirog.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I think it would have helped Pirog BIG TIME if he had followed the Jacobs win with a quick return on a televised card in the US but he didn't strike while the iron was hot. Maybe not his fault. Now it is over a year and people forget easily. I wanted to see him cause I am a fan of his awkward but effective style but he disappeared.

HBO did not get behind him.

[spoonwars]

How about they fight on neutral territory for a realistic amount of money. The big fights, if any, can wait at least one fight longer... unless Dibella plans to copromote Martinez under Top Rank.

[HeroBando]

Even if he is, he's less accomplished. Macklin is more deserving. Sorry, I give credit to fighters who step inside the ring and prove they belong. Mackling went to Germany and proved he belonged, even he was robbed of a decision, you can say that Macklin beat the NUMBER 2 guy at middleweight. That's more deserving that beating a prospect.

You can have all the skill in the world, but that don't mean squat until prove inside the ring.

Beating Danny Jacobs proves nothing to me.

Macklin's controversial loss to Sturm puts him on par with Gevor, just a step behind Randy Griffin, and a few behind Castillejo. He also looked bad in a bevy of fights prior to Sturm, including Yori Boy Campas and worse.

He was also due to fight Pirog for the EBU belt before the Jacobs fight. According to some British (!) posters on boxrec and ESB, it was his team that got cold feet, though I couldn't gather anything definitive.

But really, I don't have to convince you that Pirog is more of a threat to Martinez than Macklin is. Your attitude towards the Pirog fight, shared by other Sergio fans in this thread, as well as his promoter, says it all.

[sweet-s]

There's no denying that the buzz has already started. 168 comments in this section says alot about it. Whether this fight between Martinez and Pirog takes place in Feb or not is not of importance. Sooner or later, and Pirog stated that in his interviews, this fight will happen.

I might be in the minority, but Pirog will win this fight. He's an intelligent analyst und extremely skillful boxer. Adapting his style to the opponent is one of his attributes. Forget the hype for a second and clearly analyse the styles for a while. One must concede that this is a perfect matchup, a toss up. For me Pirog has the slight advantage because styles make fights and I don't think that Martinez has the tools to defeat Pirog. Pirog might not be known, but I saw what was coming in the Jacobs fight. Also here few gave Pirog a chance.

To see what analysis Pirog has done already also read this exciting interview. At the end of next year I see both opponents in the ring.

http://www.secondsout.com/news?ccs=1611&cs=2321378