Keith Kizer: "Mayweather was AGAINST petitioning the commision for OSDT"

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  • mrjoeblive
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    #121
    Originally posted by Toyman
    lol trying to divert attention away from your last post where you clearly showed you had no idea what you were talking about.
    the proof is in the wording i read the post and my comments have not changed toyman. i dont mind going toe to toe with you on the facts but perhaps you and pac fans should read fight hypes time line on the fight negotiations. it clearly show who is avoiding this fight. and again i dont have to avert anything. im not the one thats trying to change documented history. pac didnt want to take the ost. thats a FACT!!! "im afraid of needles" when every body started laughing and said well how did you get all that body art? then blood test make me weak, to im superstitious about having blood drawn so close to a fight. to now *******s are saying manny wanted the ost all along. well guess what. this is the first thread out of a few hundred that states that B.S. so get off that drug horse and get real my friend. stop trying to re-write boxing scene history. there is so much evidence that goes against the crap you are selling.

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    • Toyman
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      #122
      Originally posted by mrjoeblive
      the proof is in the wording i read the post and my comments have not changed toyman. i dont mind going toe to toe with you on the facts but perhaps you and pac fans should read fight hypes time line on the fight negotiations. it clearly show who is avoiding this fight. and again i dont have to avert anything. im not the one thats trying to change documented history. pac didnt want to take the ost. thats a FACT!!! "im afraid of needles" when every body started laughing and said well how did you get all that body art? then blood test make me weak, to im superstitious about having blood drawn so close to a fight. to now *******s are saying manny wanted the ost all along. well guess what. this is the first thread out of a few hundred that states that B.S. so get off that drug horse and get real my friend. stop trying to re-write boxing scene history. there is so much evidence that goes against the crap you are selling.
      lol whatever makes you feel better:

      fact of the matter is; you had no idea what you were talking about.

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      • mrjoeblive
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        #123
        Originally posted by Rolaz
        If you want to face reality then:

        Go and verify what those USA Boxing Authorities found out in all of Pacman's past fight, inside USA. verify their test results, in accordance with the existing Professional Boxing Rules and Regulation concerning Drug Testing.

        Check the credibility of Pacman's Trainer, is he one of those Best Trainer?why is it, that he was chosen "Trainer of the Year" for the record 4th times?

        Did the Critics ever visited Pacman during his Training? Did they ever interview his past sparring Partners?; Did they ever interview his Physical conditioning Coach?

        In the end, it's not about Random Blood Test, it's about bloated ego, avoiding the fight of the current #1P4P & Fighter of the Decade -Pacman.
        come on rolaz, you know better. how many fighters have the urine testing caught? it has caught a few, even a few roach fighters one being my friend from michigan mr James Toney. but there is a lot of fighters using peds. boxing is the new MLB. and i know a lot of people that work in health care that laugh at urine test. they can tell you what masking agent to use to beat a urine test. so lets not pretend that urine testing is unbeatable.

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        • mrjoeblive
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          #124
          Originally posted by Toyman
          lol whatever makes you feel better:

          fact of the matter is; you had no idea what you were talking about.
          thats a simple reply from a man that had so much to say. if i did not know what i was talking about why dont you be a gentle man and point it out for me. and again you did not respond to anything i said in my last TWO post. now your doing the ducking. but hey everybody likes to play with a toyman right?

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          • Deevel916
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            #125
            Floyd: If you're the best take the test

            Pac: Okay, lets petition NSAC to conduct random testing

            Floyd: No. I won't. Its USADA or nothing baby. If you're the best take the test

            Pac: Okay, i'll take the USADA test

            Floyd: If you're the best take the test.

            Pac: I said i'll take your test already, its not an issue anymore, can we fight now?

            Floyd: If you're the best take the test.

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              #126
              ^^

              "clean up your finances... then let's fight.."

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                #127
                Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                come on rolaz, you know better. how many fighters have the urine testing caught? it has caught a few, even a few roach fighters one being my friend from michigan mr James Toney. but there is a lot of fighters using peds. boxing is the new MLB. and i know a lot of people that work in health care that laugh at urine test. they can tell you what masking agent to use to beat a urine test. so lets not pretend that urine testing is unbeatable.
                Lance Armstrong is (according to the guiness book of records) the most tested athlete in the world. Yet he's able to beat year round surprise olympic random tests somehow.

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                • Toyman
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                  thats a simple reply from a man that had so much to say. if i did not know what i was talking about why dont you be a gentle man and point it out for me. and again you did not respond to anything i said in my last TWO post. now your doing the ducking. but hey everybody likes to play with a toyman right?
                  well not much more needs to be said really...all you said was that im pretty much right, then you padded it with 20 lines of irrelevant info.

                  but sure, ill point it out for you again:

                  you said

                  this is where you got it WRONG. the post clearly state "both parties could PETITION the NSAC for the additional testing" and floyd already knew from the past that NSAC would not go for the additional testing.
                  when clearly,,,keith kizer said they would

                  if they had done a joint-petition to the commission for additional drug testing where they’d cover the cost so we wouldn’t have any budget issues, we would have been happy to do that. We’re still happy to do that. Again, my understanding is Golden Boy, Top Rank, and Pacquiao were in agreement to do that, but Mr. Mayweather decided not to do that, and that’s his right.”

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                  • mrjoeblive
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    Floyd: If you're the best take the test

                    Pac: Okay, lets petition NSAC to conduct random testing

                    Floyd: No. I won't. Its USADA or nothing baby. If you're the best take the test

                    Pac: Okay, i'll take the USADA test

                    Floyd: If you're the best take the test.

                    Pac: I said i'll take your test already, its not an issue anymore, can we fight now?

                    Floyd: If you're the best take the test.

                    again you are trying to change history. bob arum stated USADA was on floyds pay role and would sabotage manny. so when did manny say he would take the USADA ost??????

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                    • Toyman
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Deevel916
                      Lance Armstrong is (according to the guiness book of records) the most tested athlete in the world. Yet he's able to beat year round surprise olympic random tests somehow.
                      The usada couldn't catch marion jones for 5 years.

                      Oddly enough, it took a victor conte accusation and the much-maligned urine test to finally catch her in 2006.

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