Comments Thread For: Emanuel Steward Breaks Down Pacquiao vs Marquez III

[boxingsmash69]

A WW who fought at JMW is fighting a LW. Pac is going to Ricky Hatton JMM. Anything less is a sign of;

A. Pac STILL Can't handle a defensive counter puncher
B. Pac is getting OLD
C. All the above

Pac should have ZERO problems with JMM's style, size and/or power. Easy easy easy fight for Pac and should be over very early.

Well, for the Marg fight, Pac weighed in at 144lbs, and then 148lbs on fight night. That's low even for a regular welterweight sized person. Hell, the average JWW probably weighs in at 145-150lbs on fight night. Pac is a perfect JWW, it's just that he's good enough to compete and beat the top WW's.

Well, everyone thinks a defensive counter puncher would be Pac's nightmare. Just remember, JMM is an offensive counter-puncher. Counter-punchers cannot afford to be outworked too much when fighting an aggressive opponent. This is why I see JMM always does so well against Pac, he fights back in combos after Pac makes mistakes, to catch the judges eyes.

[Chuckguy]

Manny Pac is going to truck poor JMM
I would love nothing more than to see JMM win but its not happening

[Toyman]

If you are saying pac has "destroyed" JMM before you need to delete yourself.

Pac is fighting JMM for a third time to finally beat him, as he couldn't do it decisively after 24 rounds.

Now in 2011 at WW, Pac WILL Ricky Hatton JMM, don't be mad about it you *****.

No, you said pac will now have a chance to finally defeat jmm decisively as if pac sucks for not having done so before.

So please tell me: Who did beat JMM convincingly at his best weight? :O

But then again you already know the answer; you're just trying to be funny and get attention.

[WESS]

No, you said pac will now have a chance to finally defeat jmm decisively as if pac sucks for not having done so before.
So please tell me: Who did beat JMM convincingly at his best weight? :O

But then again you already know the answer; you're just trying to be funny and get attention.

Stop lying *****, I never said such a thing. Pac IS fighting JMM for a third time to DECISIVELY beat him as he COULDN'T do it after 24 rounds. If he DID there wouldn't be a reason for the third fight now would there be?

try again..................

[WESS]

Well, for the Marg fight, Pac weighed in at 144lbs, and then 148lbs on fight night. That's low even for a regular welterweight sized person. Hell, the average JWW probably weighs in at 145-150lbs on fight night. Pac is a perfect JWW, it's just that he's good enough to compete and beat the top WW's.

Well, everyone thinks a defensive counter puncher would be Pac's nightmare. Just remember, JMM is an offensive counter-puncher. Counter-punchers cannot afford to be outworked too much when fighting an aggressive opponent. This is why I see JMM always does so well against Pac, he fights back in combos after Pac makes mistakes, to catch the judges eyes.

Which is why people question such a fight at WW. Maybe one day Pac will either fight a relevant WW fighter or just move down to JWW or below. This fighting at WW vs a LW got old back in 2009.

[Reloaded]

Well, for the Marg fight, Pac weighed in at 144lbs, and then 148lbs on fight night. That's low even for a regular welterweight sized person. Hell, the average JWW probably weighs in at 145-150lbs on fight night. Pac is a perfect JWW, it's just that he's good enough to compete and beat the top WW's.

Well, everyone thinks a defensive counter puncher would be Pac's nightmare. Just remember, JMM is an offensive counter-puncher. Counter-punchers cannot afford to be outworked too much when fighting an aggressive opponent. This is why I see JMM always does so well against Pac, he fights back in combos after Pac makes mistakes, to catch the judges eyes.

How can he be good enough to compete at higher weights when he forces the opponent to be at a weight that handicaps them , it makes no sense , how can you beat a guy you handicap and then say you were good enough .

How do you justify CWs inside your own division ?

How can you justify forcing Cotto down , forcing JMM up ,,,,, but old Mosley and in house Clottey was ok ,,,,, some slight of hand going on with Pac fights .

[AllEyesOpen]

I agree with Steward, it just depends on where JMM is at this point in his career. Time catches up to all of us, and as I recall Steward expected Mosley to have enough to give Mayweather a lot of problems too, and we all know how that turned out.

[boxingsmash69]

How can he be good enough to compete at higher weights when he forces the opponent to be at a weight that handicaps them , it makes no sense , how can you beat a guy you handicap and then say you were good enough .

How do you justify CWs inside your own division ?

How can you justify forcing Cotto down , forcing JMM up ,,,,, but old Mosley and in house Clottey was ok ,,,,, some slight of hand going on with Pac fights .

That's what happens when you reach the top of the sport, promotors/matchmakers/managers control everything if you let it.

I honestly believe Pacquiao doesn't care about anything but just fighting and enjoying life, that's it. All the decisions are probably made by his team and such.

At this point, it's all about the money and advantages before retirement, what Pac and Floyd have done is enough to retire and seal their legacies, even without fighting each other.

Why these guys are boxing in the first place: Money.

Taking the proper steps to make the most money? Main objective.

Entertain the fans? secondary objective.

[ADP02]

Only because of the weight , if it was 140 its another war , but Pac gotta have is advantages or he dont fight ,,, the catch weight in this is utter BS , and then to brag about stopping him is low seeing JMM is scamed at the weights .

Then you must really think low of Floyd since he had agreed to the already disadvantaging weight of 144 .... then to make things worse, Floyd changed his mind and came in at 146!!!

Oh, and you talk about bragging? Floyd while training for the Ortiz fight still says that he picked a Marquez that was P4P #2 and beat him ... lol!


It was probably worse against Floyd because he only had a couple of fights at 135 and then was asked to go up to WW (uncharted territory). Now against Manny, its at a lower weight, Manny is not as big as Floyd, he knows how to fight Manny, he has given Manny problems before and has more time and experience to adjust to a weight that he has tried once before. Not going to be easy though .... but not as low as Floyd went with this ..... Manny vs Marquez has the history and now the trilogy.

[LeadUppercut]

pac is giving marquez a 3rd chance to beat him and all you do is complain

Would it actually be possible for you to go more than 3 days without thinking about pac?

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW opponent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for being such a cherry-picker.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage
* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all

7.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004