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  • #61
    Originally posted by mathed View Post
    JMM was p4p#2 at the time (for whatever that's worth) and Floyd had been off for like 2 years before that, plus JMM is very technical which gave people the impression that he had an outside chance. Not to mention the fight was postponed from it's original date and rescheduled based on a Mayweather injury.

    Know what that injury was? The I can't sell fights worth **** so let's have the fight on Mexican Independence Day so JMM can carry the weight that my sorry ass can't carry, injury.

    Floyd isn't a cash-cow, he never was. People only pay to see him lose- they tried the same thing this time with Ortiz but Hispanics don't affiliate with Ortiz....you kidding me, that's why it didn't sell this time. Without an opponent who has a demographic fanbase that will buy the fight, the only other people paying are those to see Floyd get his arse smacked around. 50% PPV buys from the opponent's fanbase, 25% people who want Floyd to lose, and the remaining 25% of buys are from Floyd's own loyal fans.

    Gatti fight.......Gatti fans
    Hatton fight.......Hatton fans
    DLH fight...lmao...all DLH fans
    Mosley fight.....people wanting Floyd to lose
    JMM fight....all JMM fans

    Without an opponent who has a locked in fanbase.......undisclosed PPV sales numbers a month out from the fight and speculation that it was a flop. The proof is in the pudding.........

    That is pretty much a farcical argument.

    Hatton has no US fans

    JMM isn't big as proof by every other PPV he has ever headlined, if he had so many fans why didn't his other PPV get close to 1 million

    Oscar when did he approach 2 million~ even with a guy who had a whole island behind him like Tito~

    Gatti had exactly 0 ppv before the Floyd fight but it is obvious he was a huge PPV star attracting all the viewers~

    Even if it did 850k that isn't a flop because that is more than two times what any other boxer save one would do in their biggest and best fight.

    So what the fuck are you talking about, money is money whatever the reason it gets spent love or hate it all adds up the same~

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      That is pretty much a farcical argument.

      Hatton has no US fans

      JMM isn't big as proof by every other PPV he has ever headlined, if he had so many fans why didn't his other PPV get close to 1 million

      Oscar when did he approach 2 million~ even with a guy who had a whole island behind him like Tito~

      Gatti had exactly 0 ppv before the Floyd fight but it is obvious he was a huge PPV star attracting all the viewers~

      Even if it did 850k that isn't a flop because that is more than two times what any other boxer save one would do in their biggest and best fight.

      So what the fuck are you talking about, money is money whatever the reason it gets spent love or hate it all adds up the same~

      wow. what a pile of crap. ofcourse its a failure.

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      • #63
        Just proves Floyd will have to stop opting for scrubs and fight real opponents if he wants millions of ppv buys.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ROSTRAM View Post
          wow. what a pile of crap. ofcourse its a failure.
          850,000*65=55,250,000

          Take like half for cable distributors 27.5 million, that is just ppv revenue most big fights don't top 20 million total revenue, so please

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
            850,000*65=55,250,000

            Take like half for cable distributors 27.5 million, that is just ppv revenue most big fights don't top 20 million total revenue, so please
            after the the projected 1.8 million ppv buys, being in a mexican holiday, against Oriz who had a huge potential fanbase, being the most promoted fight ever, 850 k is a failure.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ROSTRAM View Post
              after the the projected 1.8 million ppv buys, being in a mexican holiday, against Oriz who had a huge potential fanbase, being the most promoted fight ever, 850 k is a failure.
              They didn't lose money~ it may not have done as well as they wanted but if they make money whatever.

              Floyd probably even got a bit of upside not like he is used to getting but something to get his beak wet on.

              It is a business and they made money, failure in business is when you go in the red~

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              • #67
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                850,000*65=55,250,000

                Take like half for cable distributors 27.5 million, that is just ppv revenue most big fights don't top 20 million total revenue, so please
                I like how you conviently left out advertising and marketing costs. Commercials on national tv. Private jets for transport. Full page ads in magazines, etc. Basically millions and millions.

                Also fighter salaries. Again, millions and millions.

                Its very likely that after everything, GBP, HBO, Direct TV, Dish network, MGM Grand, local hotels that were running promotions, all lost money on this fight.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  Even if it did 850k that isn't a flop because that is more than two times what any other boxer save one would do in their biggest and best fight.
                  850k is a failure for floyd given the huge promotional push for this fight. but I dunno why floyd fans are making excuses already, I'm thinking it does more than $1 mill anyways. just wait for the actual numbers to come out.

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                  • #69
                    Why is everyone arguing over a rumor?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                      I like how you conviently left out advertising and marketing costs. Commercials on national tv. Private jets for transport. Full page ads in magazines, etc. Basically millions and millions.

                      Also fighter salaries. Again, millions and millions.

                      Its very likely that after everything, GBP, HBO, Direct TV, Dish network, MGM Grand, local hotels that were running promotions, all lost money on this fight.
                      if 850k is the number, then they probably didn't lose money, but they will probably be very disappointed given the promotional push this fight had

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