Mike Tyson in his Prime was one of the greatest heavyweights of all time

[The Surgeon]

That have an ounce of truth to it!? Ive nevr heard that ***** and if so why wasnt it changed to a No Contest?

Seriously i get it but is there any truth to the steriod thing? Is it something Klitchko fans actually believe!?

[Superflo777]

Look at all these racist blacks, butthurt Brits, xenophobic Americans, etc. in this thread.

You guys are pathetic.

All of the best black heavyweights have been exposed, destroyed and humiliated by the Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans.

The same thing is happening in many other weight classes too.

Soviets/Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war/iron curtain.

Now Soviets/Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing and are dominating the higher weight classes.

We're also dominating the amatuers. Most of those great amatuers will become great pros.

This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.

Eastern European fighters are superior.

The Klitschkos are the negrocutioners.

Wlad and Vitali are the two most dominant fighters of all time.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

The joke is getting old...
Enough now.

[Luilun]

I recommend watching this documentary.. it is amazing and makes you understandwhat I mean:



Boxing Documentary about Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton and Larry Holmes.

ali wasn't so great just hyped up recieved 4 gifts and Liston took two dives after I watched an episode on Mobsters Liston manger was connected to the Luchasse Crime Family It's alledge that Liston was told to lose in the first fight cause Ali was a 8 to 1 under dog and than you had the phantom punch in the 2nd fight

[BigStereotype]

ali wasn't so great just hyped up recieved 4 gifts and Liston took two dives after I watched an episode on Mobsters Liston manger was connected to the Luchasse Crime Family It's alledge that Liston was told to lose in the first fight cause Ali was a 8 to 1 under dog and than you had the phantom punch in the 2nd fight

[Bombs]

ali wasn't so great just hyped up recieved 4 gifts and Liston took two dives after I watched an episode on Mobsters Liston manger was connected to the Luchasse Crime Family It's alledge that Liston was told to lose in the first fight cause Ali was a 8 to 1 under dog and than you had the phantom punch in the 2nd fight

[J.Dempsey]

haye would dominate tyson...big up south london!!

na serious, prime tyson (pre don king, b*tch that sued him, roony split) would trouble vitali..
tyson with cus d'mato even better

lets be real there will never be a HW like mike in his prime, he was an absolute beast..he deserves to be recognised as having a gd chance against all the great HW's, ali, louis, klitschos and ofcourse haye ;P

[Superflo777]

tyson with cus d'mato even better

Mike with Cus and Vitali with Manny Steward in his corner?

[Brother Jay]

Tyson does NOT have an ATG career. Its just that simple.

He had all the tools, all the talent, and probably the most elite training of any HW ever under Cus D'amato.

Had Cus lived, Tyson would have probably been the greatest HW ever. He is certainly the most exciting, the most dynamic and the most infamous HW since Ali.

He was the perfect blend of power, agility, attitude and the sweet science. He was machine.

Tyson was definitely the most capable HW. He had the most scientific style using notation to represent punching angles, incredible bobbing and weaving ability to slip jabs and power punches, and peek-a-boo style that was fantastic.

Did he have an ATG career?

Absolutely not. And this is coming from one of his biggest fans. He easily could have had his life not fallen apart when Cus died. One thing happened to him after the next after that point. From signing with Don King to marrying Robin Givens, his life would NEVER be the same. And neither would his career. Buster Douglas, Desiree Washington and a host of other incidents would plague his life.

He would not find peace in life until well after he would retire .. and even then he lost all of his money and then he lost a child.

Iron Mike was a phenom no question, but like Ike Ibeabuchi, talent and skill aren't everything. Sometimes its simply discipline that these boxers lack that does them in.

Love the guy and wish he did more, but just because I admired the persona and the boxer doesn't mean I will lie for his legacy.

In his prime he could go the distance with ANY HW in history. Only in this era of 6'7 giants could a HW prove to be too much. Still, a prime Iron Mike could dip and dab passed an opponent's jab, get inside and throw hooks at their hide!

A favorite of mine. I would put Iron Mike Tyson in the category with Charley Burley:

A G.O.A.T. talent who never quite had a G.O.A.T. career, but is undeniably one of the best to ever do it.

[WesleySnipes]

thats soo right...the sad thing is his "prime" was too short to be an ATG for the most critics...i understand that...after 89 he lost all his big fights...even lost to ****in bums like Mc Bride & Douglas (by the way in 88 he would knocked down both in round 1 and we all know that), showed no heart of a champion, and he really wasnt all that...still one of the best but only like 30% of what he was back then...but if you really look at the fights from 85 to 88 you can definatly see one of the best guys who ever put on a pair of gloves...he really got it all (except size)...he was ****in fast, had unbelivable power, great left hook, superb uppercuts, great combos...his peek a boo style was amazing...a 88 Tyson would "maybe" beat every other fighter in the history of boxing!

[WesleySnipes]

Tyson does NOT have an ATG career. Its just that simple.

He had all the tools, all the talent, and probably the most elite training of any HW ever under Cus D'amato.

Had Cus lived, Tyson would have probably been the greatest HW ever. He is certainly the most exciting, the most dynamic and the most infamous HW since Ali.

He was the perfect blend of power, agility, attitude and the sweet science. He was machine.

Tyson was definitely the most capable HW. He had the most scientific style using notation to represent punching angles, incredible bobbing and weaving ability to slip jabs and power punches, and peek-a-boo style that was fantastic.

Did he have an ATG career?

Absolutely not. And this is coming from one of his biggest fans. He easily could have had his life not fallen apart when Cus died. One thing happened to him after the next after that point. From signing with Don King to marrying Robin Givens, his life would NEVER be the same. And neither would his career. Buster Douglas, Desiree Washington and a host of other incidents would plague his life.

He would not find peace in life until well after he would retire .. and even then he lost all of his money and then he lost a child.

Iron Mike was a phenom no question, but like Ike Ibeabuchi, talent and skill aren't everything. Sometimes its simply discipline that these boxers lack that does them in.

Love the guy and wish he did more, but just because I admired the persona and the boxer doesn't mean I will lie for his legacy.

In his prime he could go the distance with ANY HW in history. Only in this era of 6'7 giants could a HW prove to be too much. Still, a prime Iron Mike could dip and dab passed an opponent's jab, get inside and throw hooks at their hide!

A favorite of mine. I would put Iron Mike Tyson in the category with Charley Burley:

A G.O.A.T. talent who never quite had a G.O.A.T. career, but is undeniably one of the best to ever do it.

couldnt say it better...you need more than 3-4 good years in your boxing career too be an ATG...but still for me in my heart he is an ATG and maybe even my favorite fighter ever...nah **** it he is my favorite ever!