Bernard Hopkins is the greatest middleweight in history

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what you people think.

No way. But he deserves some credit for being so consistent throughout his career even at 40 years old

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And you say I hijack threads?

This whole Hopkins hating is pretty silly.

Like him or not, he dominated the Middleweight division for 10 years, made 20 defenses, and lost so few rounds in that time you could count them on two hands.

You don't dominate for that long without being a great fighter.

The title of this thread may be disagreeable to some, but Hopkins is without a doubt a top 10 all time Middleweight.

agreed B-Hop is definitely top 10

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Who, me?


Look at the FACTS and LEARN:


In 1998 Hopkins TKOed Simon Brown. Where the **** were Ray Leonard and Jake La Motta then? I bet they were off ****ting it somewhere.


****in pwned!

Estoy confundido............Que quiere desir eso???

[Guest]

And you say I hijack threads?

I knew you'd get that in, but - while there's some merit in what you say - it's still a cheap shot.


I probably only piss about in, say, 60% of Hopkins thread at mosts. With you and the Klits it's a full-time job.

[Guest]

Estoy confundido............Que quiere desir eso???

Sorry, I was just taking the piss. Hopkins is enormously overrated and judged on his performances against inferior competition.

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I knew you'd get that in, but - while there's some merit in what you say - it's still a cheap shot.


I probably only piss about in, say, 60% of Hopkins thread at mosts. With you and the Klits it's a full-time job.

Yes but my critisisms of average unproven fighters getting mad hype is justified.

You down playing one of the greatest middleweights of all time is comepletely without merit.

Seriously, like him or not, there's no denying Hopkins is a top ten middleweight of all time.

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I see the tale of the tape posted, but reality someone should post the punch thrown/landed count after the fight, but nooooo they r too revealing.

[Guest]

Yes but my critisisms of average unproven fighters getting mad hype is justified.

You down playing one of the greatest middleweights of all time is comepletely without merit.

You see, this is all SUBJECTIVE. To my mind, discussion - within reason - of the potential of what could be a great heavy of the current era is more valid than hyping up what is the dying career days of a man who would be lucky to get top 15 middleweights.

Seriously, like him or not, there's no denying Hopkins is a top ten middleweight of all time.

You know that's an OPINION, and not a FACT, right?

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You know that's an OPINION, and not a FACT, right?

And anyone who disagress with Hopkins being a top ten middleweight would be in a very small minority.

Your argument agaisnt it is very weak.

Hagler and Monzon fought a lot of meidocre fighters because of the lenght of time they elected to stay at Middleweight. In these cases, it's about longevity and consistency.

You say Tito and Delahoya were blown up middleweights.

Need I remind you that so where Duran, Hearns, and Leonard, all who Hagler fought?

There's nothing wrong with a great big fighter beating a great small fighters.

Again, Hopkins dominated the middlewieght division for ten straight years, breaking the record for defenses. That puts him in some very exclusive company, and shows how consistant he was.

Trying to down play that and calling him "lucky to be in the top 15" sounds pretty jaded to me.

Make a poll.

It would be overwhlemingly in favor of Hopking being a top ten, with top 5 coming in 2nd.

There's a reason why that's the popular opinion.

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what you people think.

I think Sugar Ray Robinson is the best Middle Weight in History