Best Ever In EVERY sport by the numbers...

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Zidane was a midfielder.

Yes I know, but he's still an "attacking" player.. No need to be pedantic. Messi isn't exactly a striker, he's more of a winger-type except he plays on the right and cuts in on to his left. His exceptional ball control, dribbling, vision, passing and goalscoring enable him to score and assist many goals even from this position. Therefore he's considered a striker even though he's not.

[Brother Jay]

boxing is about who you beat. Not really numbers.


The fighting game is more recognized by respect. Who you have gone up against. Not how many people have you beaten.

Otherwise JCC Jr. is one of the best ever already.

Not only who you beat, but at what point you beat them. Were they still on top when you beat them?

If that didn't matter, Terry Norris would be one of the greatest for beating an old Ray Leonard, and Lennox Lewis for beating a faded Mike Tyson.

In the fight game, a lot of guys make their claim to be the best only when their division is at its weakest. There is no way to make a case for being the greatest or even among the greatest if your division is devoid of talent.

[jimmy1569]

Fact of the matte is: Vitali is not the best boxer ever period.. one of the ATGs yes... But Numbers, stats mean little if nothing if it aint your record in boxing.... If Floyd had 42 KOs sure he'd get more love... But the fact Vitali has whatever amount of KOs he has... how many other ATG's or p4p fighters has he beat.... If he fought Lennox Lewis's his entire career he'd defintely have more loses... VK is my ***** but its universally recongized that his generation of HW fighters is meager compared to others.... If he was as great as he supposedly is Chris Byrd doesnt even get him to the 9th round... VK is good but if Kevin Johnson goes 12 with him... what do you think outta shape Lewis would have eventually did... Georger Foreman, Muhammed Ali, Ken Norton, Erine Shavers, Joe Louis, even guys like Rid**** Bowe, Tommy Morrison, Evander Holyfield, Tyson, Larry Holmes, Joe Frazier, Sonny Liston, Max Baer...etc

This thread is absolute hogwash all based on speculative bias & NOT on what he's done in the ring... one of ONLY 3 fighters to ever take him the distance because the dude was frightened out of his head after talking **** throughout the prefight banter & specialized in defense like very few fighters before him.. very easy NOT to engage & just make someone miss for 36 minutes when that's what you excel in & please let;s NOT bring Briggs into the equatio..

he was Ko'ed at least 3 times in that bout but nobody saved him from himself including the inept ref who should've been in the hospital instead of Briggs.... so now the thinking is all thse former goods to greats can last all 12 as well when LENNox barely made it past 2 rds & survived because of a cut AS he had NO WAY of outboxing the great Vitali KLITSCHKO.. until someone EVEN remotely comes close to winning more than 2 rds against him in a fight...

Vitali will ALWAYS be the favorite to kick any fighter's a$$$ IN the history of boxing.. half the fighters you mentioned had borderline glass jaws that Vitali would've easily cracked... come back with better material!

[Larry the boss]

who is Vitalis best win??????????name his top 5 wins.he's a good fighter and i like him but jesus christ the best ever???lmfao..you have to be an alt trying to make jokes cause no1 can be this ******ed.he isnt even the best active fighter now

[THE REED]

who is Vitalis best win??????????name his top 5 wins.he's a good fighter and i like him but jesus christ the best ever???lmfao..you have to be an alt trying to make jokes cause no1 can be this ******ed.he isnt even the best active fighter now

He's actually not believe it or not.

[jimmy1569]

who is Vitalis best win??????????name his top 5 wins.he's a good fighter and i like him but jesus christ the best ever???lmfao..you have to be an alt trying to make jokes cause no1 can be this ******ed.he isnt even the best active fighter now

You're useless if you don't think he's the most dominant fighter now. This dude practically pummels every opponent into submission with his iron fists & you want to tell me there's someone better Lar? YoU're better than that but then again judging by your incredulous inept posts in the past.. id' say you're right on track.... keep up the bad work.. LAR... you;re a good for a little laughter when I got smaller fish to fry.

[THE REED]

This thread is absolute hogwash all based on speculative bias & NOT on what he's done in the ring... one of ONLY 3 fighters to ever take him the distance because the dude was frightened out of his head after talking **** throughout the prefight banter & specialized in defense like very few fighters before him.. very easy NOT to engage & just make someone miss for 36 minutes when that's what you excel in & please let;s NOT bring Briggs into the equatio..

he was Ko'ed at least 3 times in that bout but nobody saved him from himself including the inept ref who should've been in the hospital instead of Briggs.... so now the thinking is all thse former goods to greats can last all 12 as well when LENNox barely made it past 2 rds & survived because of a cut AS he had NO WAY of outboxing the great Vitali KLITSCHKO.. until someone EVEN remotely comes close to winning more than 2 rds against him in a fight...

Vitali will ALWAYS be the favorite to kick any fighter's a$$$ IN the history of boxing.. half the fighters you mentioned had borderline glass jaws that Vitali would've easily cracked... come back with better material!

The only thing that is fact.

Is BOXING historians don't rate the greatest fighters by numerical statistics.

[jimmy1569]

He's actually not believe it or not.

All real glass jawed Rjj... THX for the heads up!

[THE REED]

All real glass jawed Rjj... THX for the heads up!

Watch it, kiddo.

Play nice.

[hhs661]

Willie Mays > Babe Ruth
Jack Nicklaus > Tiger