Comments Thread For: Mayweather Talks Pacquiao, Ortiz, Merchant, De La Hoya

['Sugar' Freddi]

He's trying to be like Pacquiao by saying "Dude" now. Smh.

[LeadUppercut]

It's because Pac hasn't agreed to testing. Arum and co. are pulling the same stunt they always do. They aren't serious about negotiating. The fight will never happen. It's time to move on.

Pac-phags, this guy is a smart poster, and likely an astute boxing fan, whereas you are all idiots

They will milk the manny-cow until it is dry and then feed it to Mayweather.

[thebowtod]

How people ignore this is crazy. Just look and ask yourself for the past 2-3 years, WHEN was the last time a fighter won a fight when Pac fought them?

Like Mayweather said, he fights champions and fighters winning, while Pac is fighting his left overs or shot fighters like Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley or never has beens like Diaz and Clottey. Thank god for JMM.... f**K I forgot, the fight is at WW..... but hey lets bash Floyd for fighting Hatton and JMM who are the same size as Pac. lol

magarito, cotto, and hatton all came off wins.

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damn lopez you is a fool,..Pacquiao already agreed to any testing Floyd wanted. He agreed to them during the 2nd negotiations which Floyds camp denied ever happening, although HBO, their president Ross Greenburg, Top Rank, and Golden Boy who was representing Floyd all said did occur; if Floyds camp wouldnt have lied by denying the negotiations then he could save face to dudes like you. But a fifth grader could see this clown Mayweather is avoiding Pacquiao and also that this fight is never happening cuz of Floyd.

Dont be so ****** kid.

You pac-phags are total ****heads.

Not only has Pacquiao NOT agreed to the drug testing protocol, it is COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE for a "second" negotiation to have taken place.

Wake up you gullible kid

It is hilarious to hear you call someone else a fool

Perhaps you need to tweet Ariza and get your story straight.....
http://beatsboxingmayhem.com/2011/09...s-to-do-video/

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Yeah... Pac is blindly getting used by his "trusted" Arum (you can see in 24/7 that even Roach hates him). He's making so much money on Pac, especially setting up an in-house fight with Bradley. You can also use the argument that Mayweather may not want the fight since Bob Arum is involved. May absolutely hates Arum, so handing him the mega-payday of all time may not be what he wants to do.

I'm a Pacquiao fan, but I think what he should really do is take control of this situation. I hope he calls out Mayweather after the fight and say--with his own words--that he is willing to do the testing, but with reasonable negotiations. The thing with Pacquiao is that he seems like the type of fighter that will take on whoever they (his trusted advisers) put in front of him. The problem with that is that they are more concerned about protecting their money horse than what he really needs to do to complete his legacy as a fighter.

Good post man.

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One thing I don't understand is this: Ortiz talking a blue streak about how
Mayweather is "in trouble" yet when the fight starts...the sucker is
bad-pedalling? Anyone explain that? Isn't the 'brave', muscular dude
supposed to go forward?

Seems to me that their's something fishy about that whole fight...

It was a boxing match man, not a " pose-off ".

If you actually watched the fight it was obvious what happened.

[studentofthegam]

Floyd's beaten 2 unbeaten top guys in his career, Corrales and Hatton. I'll give him props for Corrales, but Hatton? You plan on this being your last fight for years so you decide to let a guy move up a division instead of facing either top unbeaten guy in your own (Cotto, Williams). It just so happens that Ricky's only other fight at 147 he got his ass kicked and nearly stopped by a B- fighter and was handed a gift decision. You fight De La Hoya 3 years removed from a significant win and after he was completely dominated and KO'd by Hopkins and you barely do enough to get by with a split decision. You fight Zab Judah for a bull**** title after he lost every round to a C journeyman fighter with 11 loses and a KO percentage of <10. You then struggle to beat Zab who wins the first 4 rounds while knocking you down. You then turn down a fight with highly regarded Antonio Margarito to take less money to fight the very journeyman Zab lost to, Carlos Baldomir. Fast forward 2 years after your win over Hatton, you come back and fight a career featherweight campaigning at 135 and make him jump up 2 divisions and then you don't even make the weight. You then duck Pacquiao to instead fight Shane Mosley, a guy you've been avoiding for years who is now 38 years old and coming off of 2 years of inactivity. You then take a year and a half off to run from Pacquiao and come back to face an unproven guy who is coming off a close decision win over a B fighter and who has already been knocked out and outboxed. Floyd says he doesn't know who's next but we know who isn't. Sergio Martinez and Manny Pacquiao unless he suddenly grows some balls.

If you think Floyd avoided Mosley then you obviously know nothing about the recent history in boxing. If he wouldnt have fought Baldo then yall would have been screaming duck. When you're the best they want you to fight everybody and its not possible.

[mrjoeblive]

Floyd's beaten 2 unbeaten top guys in his career, Corrales and Hatton. I'll give him props for Corrales, but Hatton? You plan on this being your last fight for years so you decide to let a guy move up a division instead of facing either top unbeaten guy in your own (Cotto, Williams). It just so happens that Ricky's only other fight at 147 he got his ass kicked and nearly stopped by a B- fighter and was handed a gift decision. You fight De La Hoya 3 years removed from a significant win and after he was completely dominated and KO'd by Hopkins and you barely do enough to get by with a split decision. You fight Zab Judah for a bull**** title after he lost every round to a C journeyman fighter with 11 loses and a KO percentage of <10. You then struggle to beat Zab who wins the first 4 rounds while knocking you down. You then turn down a fight with highly regarded Antonio Margarito to take less money to fight the very journeyman Zab lost to, Carlos Baldomir. Fast forward 2 years after your win over Hatton, you come back and fight a career featherweight campaigning at 135 and make him jump up 2 divisions and then you don't even make the weight. You then duck Pacquiao to instead fight Shane Mosley, a guy you've been avoiding for years who is now 38 years old and coming off of 2 years of inactivity. You then take a year and a half off to run from Pacquiao and come back to face an unproven guy who is coming off a close decision win over a B fighter and who has already been knocked out and outboxed. Floyd says he doesn't know who's next but we know who isn't. Sergio Martinez and Manny Pacquiao unless he suddenly grows some balls.

you dont know boxing son!! 1st floyd challenged shane and oscar yrs before they finally accepted. and arum refused to put oscar in with floyd. after that oscar said he wont fight floyd because floyd sr was his trainer. and pac fights these dudes after floyd and thats ok???? floyd fought oscar at 154 pac fought him at 147 and that makes pac great??? GTFO son. pac fought barrera after he had over 65 fights and was wayyyy past his prime. pac flat out refused to fight shane for years and ducked a host of fighters and yet you deluded pac fans can only say floyd ducked margarito, cotto. then you dog floyd for fighting JMM at 147 well thats just what pac is doing now. even though roach says he can easily make 140. you pac fans are lost you dumped on dudes floyd fought then pac fights them AFTER floyd and that makes him great????? and we know pac wont fight segio he ducked/ran from yuri foreman to creat a fight with margarito. and we know pac wont fight floyd unless he grows some balls and takes the test and get in the ring and get KTFO he, roach, and arum and the rest of the boxing world knows thats what will happen when floyd and pac fight. they saw what floyd did to vic and are really shook now. he will never take the ost NEVER!!!!!!!

[mrjoeblive]

I have no brotherly love for Arum, or any promoter. They steal from the fans to pad their pockets, no different than what KING did to Ali , Frazier , Foreman, I speak from reading the papers back then and seeing all on TV.

Over the years I have seen lots of fights, from the 50's,,,in every decade since,,, but I have never seen the behavior from a fighter like JR. EVER !

The great fighters that I watched on the edge of my seat as a young person in the 60's from too numerous to name never acted like Jr.

All of the greats never acted like JR.

All of the greats were Risk takers.

You young guys should have been there back then, then when you make an assessment of a fighter today, you will have the propensity to grade him from those in the past.

Jr is missing something,,,,he has or had the skills, its waning badly now. Some are just to blind to see it man.

I grew up under Ali,,,I watched all his fights the best I could , people loathed Ali or Clay because of his mouth.

His mouth wasn't vile like Jrs

Jr is VILE ,,, in all the years I have never known a fighter to be VILE like JR.

The difference in JR and Clay/Ali is that :

1. Clay/ALI wanted ALLLLLLLLLLLLL COMERS !!!!!!! JR DON'T !!!!!!

2. Clay/Ali took any and alllllllllllllll risks with JOY,,,,,,,JR WON"T

3. to be honest with you, all this talk you are doing , I am doing , others are doing wont' do one thing to get Jr in the same ring with Pac

4. Jr wouldn't make a pimple on Clay/Ali's BUTT

Maybe I need to just bow out of here forever !!!!!

Boxing has changed dramatically over the years in many respects.

I remember grabbing up the paper everyday to find boxing news,,,,now kids have access to the internet and story after story in the hundreds are in yer face daily.

Boxing has changed from the Glory to the money

Boxing has changed from the fighter who fights all comers to protecting your 0 or how many ppvs you have etc................

Maybe I need to hang up my gloves and get outa yalls way

Jr in my opinion could never hang with Leonard Hearns Hagler Duran and a host of others,,,he never had the BALLS to hang,,,,,with them

One thing for sure , it ain't like it used to be,,,no wonder MMA and that stuff is taking over

hooks your wrong about one thing, ali's mouth was far worst than jr's are you for real when you said that? and i have to say floyd hangs with the best in boxing far better than pac. pac has no defense tommy hearns would ko him in the first round. i dont see pac beating any of the ATG's IMO. pac ducks all BOXERS. oh yeah he will fight a slugger but he ducked far more boxers than anyone in today's fight game. he made his bones by fighting over the hill fighters like barrera(65+ fights when he fought pac) morrales who had been in many wars and had a long career when he fought pac. what risk did pac take? catch wts? avoiding good fighters? in house fights that you know arum ensures that he wins? at least floyd has some great fights with fighters in their prime. they dog floyd for fights that pac takes after floyd and gets credit for? wild to say the least. but dont check out yet. at least you know boxing and debate from a position of knowledge while most of the pac fan boys just started watching boxing to see pac.

[antrecasner]

NOPE yer wrong:

I am not trying to save face for nothing !!

YES , I said Ortiz would brutally KO JR and he was just getting thru the initial frustration.

To be exact on a number of occasions I said :

1. Ortiz must pressure not like bumrusher hatton. When Ortiz did pressure he had Jr where he wanted him. He didn't pressure enough that allowed Jr to potshot but most missed,,,go back to watch the fight in SLOW MO

2. I said Ortiz need to Jab,,,,he rarely did that

3. I said Ortiz must hurt Jr and when he does hurt him again.

All of those pitty pat punches in the 4th from Jr, you know that volley maybe one landed hahaha, elbows, somebody said about 14 elbows landed,,hmmm wonder if that wouldn't swell the eye a bit ????

We will never know who would have won the fight,,,Jr was getting his ass handed to him when knuckle head used his head and was wrong, but I have said it was wrong before saying this to you.

What is inexcusable was Jrs behavior with da cheap shot.

Jr has slipped badly in all departments, he needs to fight Pac soon, if he waits the whupping will be worse on him,,, byyyyy Pac

Man please!! Swinging for the fences is not taxing someones a$$.And noe Ortiz eye was swollen because of elbows...ok whatever man.and fights dont happen in slow motion,they happen in real time.To argue that jr's behavior is inexcusable is pathetic.Victor was throwing his head into Floyd from round 2 till his a$$ got knocked TFO!!Also all these ifs your coming up with.Ortiz never had a jab so why would he develop one for this fight.I really try not to comment on anything you,check hook and a host of others on here cause no matter what you will never give the man his props.When Floyd Ko'd him I have to say i didnt like it but after watching this fight about 10times im glad he did because Vic was fighting extremely dirty with the butts and rabbit punches but i guess for you guys its ok because it was Floyd he was doing it to.Also if ya boy was coming on strong and was gonna take it to Floyd he would of not did whta he did he would of kept his composure and knocked Floyd out but you even know that wasnt gonna happen, dont you ?