Martinez is not that good

[daggum]

Well, I think stuff like that happens if you start to believe your own hype... stuff like that happens if you think you now the biggest puncher there ever was... the sad thing was you don't know if you should congratulate Barker (Baker how he is known for ppl who get money to announce him) or just be sad...

On the one part if somebody is challenging for the MW crown you can expect that he is good and brings a good effort and his game... he even had the style that would beat Martinez... if he had any power whatsoever... he just put up his defence and jabbed at him... IDK what to make out of it... MW doesn't seem to be the best weight for Sergio - 154 suits him better... he is an ok fighter... but against someone who has chin, an ok defense and decent boxing technique and power he looses... but in today's boxing you first have to find someone who brings these things together that were standard in other era's

why would you expect that? this is boxing. king of the mismatches. yes in a sport that worked the best would play the best but in a "sport" where they only try to make money and play it safe that almost never happens. if you aren't a threat or are on a downward spiral you will get a shot before someone dangerous and in their prime. boxing 101. dibella knows this of course.

[MARKBNLV]

He looked ordinary in one fight. Now he's not that good? What about his masterful performances against Williams, Pavlik, Dzinziruk? How can you discount those? Before last night, people were making a p4p argument that he should be #3, now you don't think so? I think Martinez had an off night. It happens to the best of fighters...

He does not impress me he dangles his hands like roy jones but cant counter for sht,he fights bums more often then beasts,he is plain ass scared of 168 their are real fighters there.

[MARKBNLV]

That, or maybe Barker is better than we all thought.

Besides, how did Mosley manage to run around followed by a clueless Pacman for 12 rounds, being 40 & shot, he mustn't be that good either then huh?

He is babied by his daddy,name the last prime fighter pacquiao fought.

[Khalid X]

He does not impress me he dangles his hands like roy jones but cant counter for sht,he fights bums more often then beasts,he is plain ass scared of 168 their are real fighters there.

Martinez has only rehydrated up to the 168 once in his entire career, and consistently comes in on fight night weight 164-166lbs. Why in the hell would he even go to 168 when almost all of those guys rehydrate up into the mid 180's.

He is fine right were he is at and there are a ton of fights there for him such as

Gaele vs Pirog winner
Lee vs Macklin winner
Sturm....if he grows a pair
Kirkland vs Angulo winner
Martinez vs Cotto winner
Erislandy Lara fight
and a chance to possible lure Manny or Floyd up to a catch weight to fight him.

[mathed]

ivan calderon beats him.

Steroidgio is a bum. i said so before the fight. and the fight confirmed it.

Yeah, a KO win over another undefeated fighter screams bum.....3 KO victories in a row

[MARKBNLV]

He's overrated by the posters who he has influenced to come out the closet, but he's still a damn good fighter.

Never said he was not good,he sure is fck not p4p a 47 yearold bhop would spank him at 160 at 40,and if sergio would jump a to a catchweight hopkins would beat him now just the better fighter.


BOXING NEEDS A FCKING GRAND PRIX

[GrandpaBernard]

Martinez has only rehydrated up to the 168 once in his entire career, and consistently comes in on fight night weight 164-166lbs. Why in the hell would he even go to 168 when almost all of those guys rehydrate up into the mid 180's.

He is fine right were he is at and there are a ton of fights there for him such as

Gaele vs Pirog winner
Lee vs Macklin winner
Sturm....if he grows a pair
Kirkland vs Angulo winner
Martinez vs Cotto winner
Erislandy Lara fight
and a chance to possible lure Manny or Floyd up to a catch weight to fight him.

Martinez was 170 on fight night for his DZI fight

[jkaisen41]

why would you expect that? this is boxing. king of the mismatches. yes in a sport that worked the best would play the best but in a "sport" where they only try to make money and play it safe that almost never happens. if you aren't a threat or are on a downward spiral you will get a shot before someone dangerous and in their prime. boxing 101. dibella knows this of course.

I know that usually it isn't so - but I simply feel I can't give someone credit just for being game... I mean that should be the norm USUALLY... I just think that this match was bad in every kind of the way and that Sergio simply felt that he is now superman and thought the same thing as well as you mentioned... that he will blow him out... and look good...

I think this fight pretty much could only hurt him... because nobody expected Barker to be any good... he was at least there and that's why some give him credit... but that's not enough for me... IF Sergio would have looked not so good against Cotto/Margarito or somebody that is known... it would have been ok... but looking bad against Barker will hurt him... because like you mentioned everybody knew that this was supposed a showcase/mismatch... that's why they give Barker credit only for hanging in there for 10 rounds... that was what I meant with I can't give somebody credit for showing up and trying to win... that is what I expect from a guy who fights for the MW ''Diamond'' crown... I personally never felt it was so competive or designed to be a good fight... I hope you understand what I meant *loooooooooooooooooool*

Ottke by the way would have WALKED AWAY with an easy decision over Sergio... Sergio is not quite on that Ottke level

[-Kev-]

He looked ordinary in one fight. Now he's not that good? What about his masterful performances against Williams, Pavlik, Dzinziruk? How can you discount those? Before last night, people were making a p4p argument that he should be #3, now you don't think so? I think Martinez had an off night. It happens to the best of fighters...

I agree.

An off night where he won every round and stopped his opponent. When that is an off night for a fighter, then he's officially one of the best active fighters. Because that kind of standard is only reserved for the best of the best. that absolutely have to look like Mr Perfect in every single fight against every single opponent.


Where were the "overrated" threads after Pacquiao looked average against Clottey and Mosley? Two fighters in which the majority predicted he'd win by TKO.


Oh I know why he didn't stop Clottey, because he was covering up the whole fight. Wait, that sounds familiar. Wasn't Barker just covering up the whole time? Why wasn't Mosley knocked out? Well, that's because Mosley was just jabbing and jabbing and refused to engage. I paid a total of $100+tax for those two fights, and got pretty boring results. In Martinez vs Barker, it was more exciting than those two fights, but with the opponents behaving similar, and I watched it with my normal subscription of HBO. Actually Barker was more game than Clottey and Mosley.

[jkaisen41]

And by the way... even the knockout looked like ****... so it just underlined the whole showcase