Everytime this is posted Floyd fans disappear

[kbpoetree]

Owned, I am sorry I dont understand how you can figure that then again your a *****...

What grade are we in 5th?


and why do I point out the rules, simple this is what protects the fighters preserves the integrity of the sport.
all trainers stay on top of the rules if they didnt Mosley would have been violently assaulted by bricks when he fought Margarito..

You do what ever you have to do to protect your fighters and the best way to do that is by making love to that rule book...

its a boxing thing I wouldnt expect anybody to understand.....

I am off to have dinner a few drinks and smoke some see yall tomorrow

With all that was said during the 7 pages i read...this is what bothers me the most and almost discredits what you've said...UR a COACH??? good way to lead by example...and altho i believe ur a coach u should know more than anyone then that the "rules" change constantly and arnt completly literal..I mean in USA boxing we still follow the rulebook from like 09....there are just revisions that one has to find over the years..

[kbpoetree]

A.Intentional fouls
1.If an intentional foul causes an injury, and the injury is severe enough to terminate the bout immediately, the boxer causing the injury shall lose by disqualification.
2.If an intentional foul causes an injury and the bout is allowed to continue, the referee will notify the authorities and deduct (2) points from the boxer who caused the foul. Point deductions for intentional fouls will be mandatory.
3.If an intentional foul causes an injury and the injury results in the bout being stopped in a latter round, the injured boxer will win by TECHNICAL DECISION if he is ahead on the score cards or the bout will result in a TECHNICAL DRAW if the injured boxer is behind or even on the score cards.
4.If boxer injures himself while attempting to intentionally foul his opponent, the referee will not take any action in his favor, and this injury shall be the same as one produced by a fair blow.
5.If the referee feels that a boxer has conducted himself in an unsportsmanlike-like manner, he may stop the bout and disqualify the boxer.
And the bolded here is the one Ortiz shouldve got.....dude launched like a rocket to headbut Floyd...it wasnt even a slick headbut like BHop might do or any other boxer for that fact...it was w extreme intent to hurt mayweather

[x3_bazooka_x3]

With all that was said during the 7 pages i read...this is what bothers me the most and almost discredits what you've said...UR a COACH??? good way to lead by example...and altho i believe ur a coach u should know more than anyone then that the "rules" change constantly and arnt completly literal..I mean in USA boxing we still follow the rulebook from like 09....there are just revisions that one has to find over the years..

The rules themselevs are not literal, However the referee code of conduct is, and its federal.
There is a protocal and an order in which this was supposed to be handled..
and here it is..

Time

Seperate boxers send each to a nuteral corner, inform fighter of the infraction, escort fighter to the center of the ring notify the judges to take a point

send offending fighter back to the neutral corner, have the Dr examine the fighter who was fouled award 5 mins if needed.

send non offending fighter back to his corner

strand inbetween both fighters, call Notify time keeper, command time in...

Command fighters to Box

You must do it in that order and Cortez did not....

He said lets go, which could be translated as lets fight, However he did not call time in first, which is why he was looking and speakin with the time keeper when this cheap shot happend, the time keeper as well did not hear the command.

Which is also why in the rules it states everybody must be on the same page..... they were not and that is nobodys fault but Cortez.

Mayweather fans take this as a personal attack when in reality it wasnt Floyds fault, this is a huge mistake by the third man in the ring who did not follow the protocal...

[kbpoetree]

theres no doubt that Cortez was the one MOST at fault altho i feel lets fight/lets go IS the call for "time in" thats jus my opinion..but no doubt Cortez did not handle the situation right

[x3_bazooka_x3]

theres no doubt that Cortez was the one MOST at fault altho i feel lets fight/lets go IS the call for "time in" thats jus my opinion..but no doubt Cortez did not handle the situation right

Exactly and I dont get why People get so ****in offended when I point this out, well teh Mayweather supporters....

in your previous post you pointed out

5.If the referee feels that a boxer has conducted himself in an unsportsmanlike-like manner, he may stop the bout and disqualify the boxer.

You are right, however Cortez decided to just take a point, but you have to read the rules careful, May, means you may or you may not.

Shall means you must, Shall not means you cant..... thats the legal language of the rules but you have to know what those terms mean before you can just site a rule book.

Now When Mayweather at the post fight presser was asked, if he heard Cortez call time in or was he so pissed off he just went over there to get at Ortiz.
Mayweathers response was I cant say if I heard joe or not, all I know is what goes around comes around....

To me and lets be honest to me he is telling you he didnt hear him call time in, and that he wanted to pay Ortiz back for the blantant foul, meaning he himself didnt care if he was DQd....

I mean when both fighters are saying, we didnt hear him say time in or to start fightin and you have a ref during the fight talking to a time keeper who is also confused what does that tell you?

[titan m]

Again these are the rules this is protocal, I know it hurts, you dont have to be a ***** about it, you just got exposed.... Lets go is not an official command, and he never said TIME IN

Lol you cant be serious, when a referee tells you lets go it is the same as time in. For somebody who claims they box, you should know that. You are only claiming that it not the same because it involves Floyd Mayweather. If there was any wrong doing there would at least be an investigation. All the complaining about Cortez not saying time in is ridiculous, he obviously motioned and said the fight was on, you cant miss it. There should be more complaints about him not warning Ortiz for using his head more and only taking one point for the blatant intentional head butt. Whiners like you keep saying Cortez took a point for the head butt like that changes the fact that he did it and tried it all night, Ortiz fought dirty and got Knocked out dirty, he deserved it and the only reason its a problem is because Mayweather is the one that knocked him out. Dry your tears and let it go, its time to move on.

[John Barron]

kbpoetree,

floyd mayweather understood it was time to fight.
keith kizer understood it was time to fight.
ringside officials understood it was time to fight.

ortiz made 3 mistakes after the point deduction

1. he didn't pay attention to ref instructions.
2. he didn't put his guard up.
3. he looked at the ref after he just got chin checked. even fucking amateurs know better.

nobody, and i mean nobody would be putting heat on cortez had the dumb, immature puto put his guard up and the round went on. it was nobody's fault but ortiz's.

[kbpoetree]

theres no doubt that "may" is the option of the ref...i understand that for sure..again tho ni my opinion if this werent a ppv fight w big name fighters 9times outta 10 the guy headbutten like that wouldve been DQ'd instantly....not just a point taken away..he got the benefit of the fans basicly by not getten dq'd Cortez knows this....like u've said NEITHER fighter is really at fault and i feel Floyd is least at fault(again just me) Ortiz had no reason to go for ANOTHER hug after his first few attempts..sounds like i'm haten on Ortiz but the man grew up in KS right next to where i'm from so I had some luv for him...Cortez didnt handle it right but the commissions tho havnt faulted him yet either

[P4P_No1]

Exactly and I dont get why People get so ****in offended when I point this out, well teh Mayweather supporters....

in your previous post you pointed out

5.If the referee feels that a boxer has conducted himself in an unsportsmanlike-like manner, he may stop the bout and disqualify the boxer.

You are right, however Cortez decided to just take a point, but you have to read the rules careful, May, means you may or you may not.

Shall means you must, Shall not means you cant..... thats the legal language of the rules but you have to know what those terms mean before you can just site a rule book.

Now When Mayweather at the post fight presser was asked, if he heard Cortez call time in or was he so pissed off he just went over there to get at Ortiz.
Mayweathers response was I cant say if I heard joe or not, all I know is what goes around comes around....

To me and lets be honest to me he is telling you he didnt hear him call time in, and that he wanted to pay Ortiz back for the blantant foul, meaning he himself didnt care if he was DQd....

I mean when both fighters are saying, we didnt hear him say time in or to start fightin and you have a ref during the fight talking to a time keeper who is also confused what does that tell you?

No-one was getting offended. Bar you. If you look back at your posts you tell people to not get personal or take things personally; yet you take things said on here personally.

Everyone here can agree that all three involved were at fault to a degree. Ortiz- heabutt & letting his guard down. Mayweather- unsportsmanlike behavior. Cortez- for perhaps not using the right terminology & not looking at the action when he was making sure that time in was call.

What I don't understand is that this has been debated again & again & again. It's not going to change people's opinion & it's not going to change the outcome of the result. So I don't understand why your bringing up old news, which is what this is.


Your worse than Skip Bayless.

[kbpoetree]

kbpoetree,

floyd mayweather understood it was time to fight.
keith kizer understood it was time to fight.
ringside officials understood it was time to fight.

ortiz made 3 mistakes after the point deduction

1. he didn't pay attention to ref instructions.
2. he didn't put his guard up.
3. he looked at the ref after he just got chin checked. even fucking amateurs know better.

nobody, and i mean nobody would be putting heat on cortez had the dumb, immature puto put his guard up and the round went on. it was nobody's fault but ortiz's.

The ref's job is to make sure the rules are "clear" and instructions in the ring ARE understood...Cortez never shouldve let Ortiz go in for the 70th hug...again tho i'm not sayen Ortiz didnt get what he deserved or May jr was in wrong..all i said was Cortez handled the situation badly...I wouldve done same thing as Mayweather did...if not worse