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  • Originally posted by cixthree View Post
    Cortez says "Let's go" around 10 times in that fight, and everytime he says it the fighters seem to overstand and obey.
    Not to mention the hand signal given, those facts alone should make you feel a lil ****** for making this thread.

    See this is why nobody takes you idiots serious, you know shyt about the sport. Now when a vid comes out showing the ref telling Manny either "Let's go" or sometrhing to that effect you'll look even dumber.
    He could have said lets go ten thousand times during the fight, again that is NOT the prortocal when Time has been called,
    You call time
    Take a point informing the judges of the foul
    You warn the offending fighter again.
    you ensure that there is distance between the fighters
    You call time in
    and you command the fighters to box.

    He said lets go, he did not say time in, and again if time was in why was Cortez and the time keeper in confusion over it while Floyd cheap shotted him.

    You guys keep comming here talking about people dont know **** but when the rules are posted, protocal is highlighted, you avoid addressing the actual rules.

    Even Floyd said he never heard Cortez say anything, at the post fight presser, and that what goes around comes around in other words Floyd himself didnt clearly know that time was in which tells you what?
    He was willing to take a DQ loss if need be.....

    Again you say people dont know **** but you evade the evidence, and at the same time I dont care if *****s take me serious or not, they just barely started to watch the ****ing sport

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    • Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
      He could have said lets go ten thousand times during the fight, again that is NOT the prortocal when Time has been called,
      You call time
      Take a point informing the judges of the foul
      You warn the offending fighter again.
      you ensure that there is distance between the fighters
      You call time in
      and you command the fighters to box.

      He said lets go, he did not say time in, and again if time was in why was Cortez and the time keeper in confusion over it while Floyd cheap shotted him.

      You guys keep comming here talking about people dont know **** but when the rules are posted, protocal is highlighted, you avoid addressing the actual rules.

      Even Floyd said he never heard Cortez say anything, at the post fight presser, and that what goes around comes around in other words Floyd himself didnt clearly know that time was in which tells you what?
      He was willing to take a DQ loss if need be.....
      Again you say people dont know **** but you evade the evidence, and at the same time I dont care if *****s take me serious or not, they just barely started to watch the ****ing sport
      that tho makes it sound like u think Floyd did it intentionally and didnt care wether time in was called???? right??? dont you think he wouldve then jus sucker punched him waaay b4 that?? like first time Ortiz tried to hug and kiss...or when they tapped gloves????

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      • Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
        The reality is Lets Go is not one of the commands

        Here is the protocal from that link The bold is my arguement
        http://abcboxing.com/documents/ABC_R...GUIDELINES.pdf

        POINT DEDUCTION MECHANICS
        1. Secure a safe distance and assume a centered position to the boxers.
        2. Command “Time!”Assure that the boxers are completely apart.
        3. Usher the offended boxer to a neutral corner.
        4. Stand in front of the offending boxer, without turning your back on the other boxer, and advise him or her
        of the foul. Assure that the offending boxer understood the admonishment.
        5. Notify the Judges of the point deduction and type of foul.
        6. Again caution the boxer for the infraction.
        7. Call time back in.
        8. Have boxing resume immediately


        He NEVER Called TIME IN he said lets go, now from the same rule book here are the commands english and spanish

        The point is, be careful what words you use. If you are not fluent in the language, you may strongly
        consider detailing simple English commands in the Dressing Room and using them in the ring.
        BREAK - Although universal, you may also get your message across by saying “FUERA!” (FOO-AY-RA)
        or “SALGA LIMPIO!” (SAL-GAH LEEM-PEE-OH) Most Spanish boxers will understand both of these
        commands.

        HEADBUTT - If a headbutt occurred or there is a danger that a headbutt will occur you may say :
        “CABEZA!” (KA-BAY-SSAH) or “CUIDADO CON LA CABEZA!” (KWEE-DA-DOE KOHN LA KA-BAYSSAH)

        PUNCH OUT OR LET HIM GO - “SUELTELO!” (SUE-EL-TAY-LO) or “DEJELO SALIR!” (DEH-HAY-LO
        SAH-LEER)

        LOW BLOW - “GOLPE BAJO!” (GOL-PAY BAH-HOE) or “MAS ARRIBA!” (MAHS A-REE-BAH)

        PUNCH BACK - The Referee is not a Second, but if you feel you have to, the best way is to say it is,
        “TIRE GOLPES!” (TEE-RAY GOL-PAYS)

        STOP PUNCHING - “NO TIRE!” (NO TEE-RAY) or “NO TIRE GOLPES!” (NO TEE-RAY GOL-PAYS)

        STOP HOLDING - In Spanish the best command would be, “SUELTELO!” (SUE-EL-TAY-LO) This implies
        that the boxer is holding and that you want him to stop.

        STOP - “PARE!” (PAH-RAY)

        DON’T DO THAT - “NO HAGAS ESO!” (NO AGAS AYY-SO
        )

        I dont see lets go in that list and again from the same rule book the rules again in which they fought under

        2. Verbal Commands and Hand Signals
        A strong sense of proper movement and positioning, verbal commands and hand signals, separate great
        Referees from the average ones. Establish your commands and signals in the Dressing Room.
        Go over breaking or separating the boxers, specific commands of the major fouls, etc.


        As important as this is, the sport continues to have problems due to poor mechanics that lead to negative
        situations for the sport.
        It means nothing to a boxer or the sport if the Referee thinks one thing and everyone else another.
        Everyone must be on the same page
        . You do not need to reinvent the wheel.

        Again if we are to look at the rules clearly Cortez ****ed this fight up and did not follow the rules that he is required to by federal law


        Now dispute that......
        __________________
        OK, so what are you trying to say? That the referee is incompetent? Well that's why the #1 rule in boxing is protect yourself at all times. You can't count on the referee to protect you. No excuses for Victor!

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        • Originally posted by kbpoetree View Post
          that tho makes it sound like u think Floyd did it intentionally and didnt care wether time in was called???? right??? dont you think he wouldve then jus sucker punched him waaay b4 that?? like first time Ortiz tried to hug and kiss...or when they tapped gloves????
          That is exactly what I am saying, Floyd likely looked at 50 and 50 was like dog you gonna let him ***** you like that...
          I mean Honestly my take on the fight even though Floyd was ahead on points it wasnt exactly out classed
          as I stated before Roth gave Ortiz round 1, Lederman and many on the forums gave Ortiz the 2nd.
          3 was clearly Floyd, 4 well Floyd did seem to take that round But Ortiz did have his moments.
          The pace was set very high, I ask you again when is the last time you have seen Mayweather throw 208 shots in the first four rounds?
          and its not like Ortiz missed everything, he landed good body shots, nice right hooks some left hands as well.
          there was 8 rounds left, and at that pace against a bigger younger guy having been away for 16 months, my take is, As soon as Ortiz butted Floyd, Floyd just snapped, I dont think Floyd wanted to find out where this fight would go, later in the fight.
          I think right then and there in the heat of the moment he was like **** it ima do some gangsta ****, take my DQ, the fans will support me and justify it....

          Just so happens the ref ****ed up and knew he ****ed up and covered this **** up by ruling it legal.

          I am not the one saying Floyd did this **** intentionally, I am saying, Floyd says he did this **** inentionally and the proof is in his statement at the post fight presser

          Lets be real we never thought we would have heard about him beatin his babys momma in front of his kids and threatening them if they ran for help.

          We never thought we would have heard about him ordering a body gaurd to shoot at someoene

          We never thought we would hear that he would assault a security gaurd for doing his job

          why would him doing something like that surprise anybody??
          Last edited by x3_bazooka_x3; 09-29-2011, 02:53 PM.

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