in my opinion Sergio Martinez is not top 5 P4P

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  • RapidFire26
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    #11
    Originally posted by nachorjj
    I'm from Argentina and I think he's overrated, he win against exposed Paul Williams and Pavlik, he is good but if he wants to be a top 5, he need to fight against the best in 160 no Barker, Chavez and call out small boxers, he need to fight Pirog, Sturm and Golovkin or 1 of they and move up to 168 to fight the best.
    Pacquiao, Mayweather, Marquez, Hopkins, Donaire they are all above.
    The K brothers are above Sergio. By more than his boxing is boring, now are the best and fight against the best
    Sergio today is at the height of Froch, Ward, Gamboa, Robert Guerrero. While I think it can get, doing things well and without wasting time



    that's my opinion, to open the debate
    The guy is 36 and the best P4P boxers are smaller guys and it isn't like Floyd is that much smaller. He deserves a payday and you forgot to mention he absolutely dismantled Dzinzurik who is no slouch. He also beat (I know it was a draw, but he did win) Cintron, although it may not look as good as it was 2.5 years ago.

    Williams was also the #4 P4P fighter when he knocked him out early.

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    • GreatestIam
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      #12
      Fact is he basically took all Paul Williams hype when he KOed him in the 2nd round... He fought a obviously distrot unsorted Pavlik, then a guy in Williams who biggest wins are Margarito and Carlos Quintana and size and figure made him tailor-made to be the next big thing, he isnt...wasnt... NOW... Martinez is.....? Who the hell is Barker another fancy KO... Fight Jermaine Taylor, Arthur Aberham, Winky Wright or someone, Barker...LMAO

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        #13
        Originally posted by GreatestIam
        Fact is he basically took all Paul Williams hype when he KOed him in the 2nd round... He fought a obviously distrot unsorted Pavlik, then a guy in Williams who biggest wins are Margarito and Carlos Quintana and size and figure made him tailor-made to be the next big thing, he isnt...wasnt... NOW... Martinez is.....? Who the hell is Barker another fancy KO... Fight Jermaine Taylor, Arthur Aberham, Winky Wright or someone, Barker...LMAO
        LMAO...ok fight a guy who is basically retired, a dude that would get smashed and lose a 12-0 decision, and a guy that should be retired as he hasn't had a fight in 3 years. Instead Martinez is fighting an undefeated, bigger opponent.........wtf???????

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        • daggum
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          #14
          ask yourself this would a top p4p fighter really sign a long term deal with lou dibella? he dq'd himself with that idiotic move and his empty arena bum parade continues....

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          • RapidFire26
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            #15
            Originally posted by GreatestIam
            Fact is he basically took all Paul Williams hype when he KOed him in the 2nd round... He fought a obviously distrot unsorted Pavlik, then a guy in Williams who biggest wins are Margarito and Carlos Quintana and size and figure made him tailor-made to be the next big thing, he isnt...wasnt... NOW... Martinez is.....? Who the hell is Barker another fancy KO... Fight Jermaine Taylor, Arthur Aberham, Winky Wright or someone, Barker...LMAO
            Winky Wright? Jermaine Taylor? Are you serious?

            Paul Williams dismantled Winky Wright and Pavlik beat Taylor twice.

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            • jkaisen41
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              #16
              Originally posted by daggum
              ask yourself this would a top p4p fighter really sign a long term deal with lou dibella? he dq'd himself with that idiotic move and his empty arena bum parade continues....
              Lou DiBella just got him on a pic together with Lisa Ann - if that doesn't bring life into his career I don't know what should - nobody promotes like Dou - this was a masterplan... I can see arena's and interest now sky rocketing for him... I got a feeling dude

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              • cactusEG
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                #17
                Originally posted by RapidFire26
                Winky Wright? Jermaine Taylor? Are you serious?

                Paul Williams dismantled Winky Wright and Pavlik beat Taylor twice.
                And ppl dont give Willaims props. I think he is a good fighter

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RapidFire26
                  Winky Wright? Jermaine Taylor? Are you serious?

                  Paul Williams dismantled Winky Wright and Pavlik beat Taylor twice.
                  I know, I know......

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                  • GreatestIam
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                    #19
                    Exactly my point people Winky, JT and Aberham are spoken for be it good bad or evil they proven there talent... LOL... Darren Barker... Its like when Tyson fought Douglas, If Tyson won no biggie... If Martinez loses thats his career defining moment... and he aint Tyson he wont come back from it....


                    that being said it wont happen right... of course because it Darren Barker... If JT,Winky or Aberham where in there youd atleast give them a chance right....?? be Honest??

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                    • MajorKong
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                      #20
                      I agree 100%.

                      Martinez best win is Williams who was always really, and I mean REALLY just an overrated bum.

                      He's done nothing to warrant so much hype.

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