in my opinion Sergio Martinez is not top 5 P4P

[WARQUEZ]

Martinez is so overrated on here, but to say he's not a top 5 P4P is foolish. He can even make a case for being number 1.

[nachorjj]

How does that example relate to Martinez?

that Martinez need to fight at 168

[jrosales13]

that Martinez need to fight at 168

How does that example relate to that?

And, anyways why does he need to?

[rorymac]

I'm from Argentina and I think he's overrated, he win against exposed Paul Williams and Pavlik, he is good but if he wants to be a top 5, he need to fight against the best in 160 no Barker, Chavez and call out small boxers, he need to fight Pirog, Sturm and Golovkin or 1 of they and move up to 168 to fight the best.
Pacquiao, Mayweather, Marquez, Hopkins, Donaire they are all above.
The K brothers are above Sergio. By more than his boxing is boring, now are the best and fight against the best
Sergio today is at the height of Froch, Ward, Gamboa, Robert Guerrero. While I think it can get, doing things well and without wasting time



that's my opinion, to open the debate

He's a good fighter but BHop should be above him.

[Barry Halls]

wow

Why the hell would martinez need to move up yet again? Hes a small middleweight whos had only a few fights there.

[nachorjj]

How does that example relate to that?

And, anyways why does he need to?

Against Pacquiao and Mayweather could win but has the weight advantage, Pacquiao come from light flyweight and Mayweather from super featherweight,
There is a big difference in physical, in 168 has very good opponents and the difference between them is not so much

[Barry Halls]

Against Pacquiao and Mayweather could win but has the weight advantage, Pacquiao come from light flyweight and Mayweather from super featherweight,
There is a big difference in physical, in 168 has very good opponents and the difference between them is not so much

the difference between 168lbs fighters and martinez is about as much as It's between martinez at 154 vs floyd or pac.

[nachorjj]

wow

Why the hell would martinez need to move up yet again? Hes a small middleweight whos had only a few fights there.

Floyd move up 5 divisions and at 154 dont see well, and Pacquiao move up 11 divisions

[nachorjj]

the difference between 168lbs fighters and martinez is about as much as It's between martinez at 154 vs floyd or pac.

I think not.

[Barry Halls]

Floyd move up 5 divisions and at 154 dont see well, and Pacquiao move up 11 divisions

from their teenage years.. So what?

A decent sized super middleweight weighs around 185lbs on fight night. What would sergio weigh? 170 max. And thats coming in slightly out of his ideal size.

At 154 he would weight about 165 on fight night versus pac/floyds 150ish.

Same ****.