in my opinion Sergio Martinez is not top 5 P4P

[nachorjj]

You are probably right, but is isn't like Barker is washed up or has absolutely no talent.

What I am saying is that Barker does not bring anything to Martinez, and nobody cares about this fight, the other with belts. And there are people interested in the fight against Pirog. Barker is a waste of time.

[daggum]

I see, we see eye to eye on this stuff... it's just to hard dude... I would have given you greeeeeeeeeeeeeen again just for the avatar

I heard through that Sven Ottke maybe makes a comeback against Michalczewski... what a war this is going to be... I mean who wants to see Klitschko-Mormeck... this should be the undercard... Ottke-Michalczewski is going to be an epic war... this is the stuff that German fight fans have been waiting for

you better not be starting false rumors because i already booked my flight to germany so i can get tickets before they sell out.

[jkaisen41]

you better not be starting false rumors because i already booked my flight to germany so i can get tickets before they sell out.

Rumors have been flying around here for a long time after Svenny helped Arthur Abraham in his camp - he mirrord Andre Dirrell and did one hell of a job as we saw in the fight... Michalczewski looks pretty much out of shape though but hey... I mean two ATG's... or bring Henry Maske into it - hell could be the first german PPV ever I would pay for it...

Don't worry - save your hard earned bucks... I will get the tickets they will be expensive enough and tell you how it's going down... you can count on me I would never let a true fan of the sweet science down - this could be the match that we all have been waiting for

[nachorjj]

I'm going to put this example that I think will serve. Gamboa vs Donaire, Donaire came from flyweight, if they beat Gamboa would be extraordinary, because it is much smaller and beats an undefeated fighter and the best featherweight.
But if Gamboa beat Donaire, is a very good win but always the weight difference will be a factor which discredits the largest for running with the advantage of physical

[Drunk Punch]

Wow. I think he's a really special fighter. If I was Argentinian I would be really proud of him.

[sdcluser]

I do not agree 100%, I think it's a very good fighter but there are better, and are overrated. I also think that their defense is not good and level rivals could exploit this flaw.
But I do not hate Martinez, I think an educated person

He's probably best fighter in his division. If you put one of the Klits in P4P, then Sirgay should be in there. He earned his way there. Sirgay will KTFO out of Felix Sturm.

[Alx.]

he's a great fighter, wants to fight everyone and definitely deserves top 3

[RubenSonny]

I completely agree. I would put Cotto over him P4P.

**** that.

[jrosales13]

The K-Bro's are above Sergio? The K-Bros? As in both of them? WTF?

Look, you want to say Wlad is above Sergio then fine. But, to say Vitaly IMO that's F'ing ridiculous. But, at the end is your list so you can make it how you want.

IMO, Sergio is top 5, and arguably #1.

[jrosales13]

I'm going to put this example that I think will serve. Gamboa vs Donaire, Donaire came from flyweight, if they beat Gamboa would be extraordinary, because it is much smaller and beats an undefeated fighter and the best featherweight.
But if Gamboa beat Donaire, is a very good win but always the weight difference will be a factor which discredits the largest for running with the advantage of physical

How does that example relate to Martinez?