Originally posted by Twako
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Does Mayweather/Ortiz enhance or take away from Mayweather's Legacy?
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In the record books, it goes down as a ko over a real champion at welterweight. No matter how much it will be frowned upon, it's a legal win, period. It enhances his legacy, but causes debate, which in the end is still not a bad thing.
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However, with father time running down the clock and this fight being one of Floyd's riskier selections in recent memory. You have to assume Floyd was hoping to get a lot more credit out of win than he will end up getting. I think had Floyd Knocked Ortiz out late or UD'd him while beating Ortiz down.. It would have enhanced his legacy. The way it ended, he gets the official victory but little more.
I also don't know how much it will help considering how much more do we really expect from Ortiz? Considering how flaky he's shown himself to be, I can't really pick him to do great things..
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Originally posted by Deevel916 View PostIn my opinion it stays the same. Fight was only 4 rounds and ended contraversially. Had Floyd KO'd Ortiz mid fight during an exchange, he would have received far more credit
Makes you wonder though a couple questions crossed my mind....
Had Ortiz cheap shotted him like that would Ortiz today have a DQ on his record?
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Had those shots laid out Ortiz, and something seriously bad happend to him such as being put in a coma or something, how would the commission the ref and the sports world feel had that been the result?
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Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View PostExactly, The headbutt can not possibly justify the cheap shots in anyway. Nobody outside of hardcore mayweather fans respect this type of win...
Makes you wonder though a couple questions crossed my mind....
Had Ortiz cheap shotted him like that would Ortiz today have a DQ on his record?
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Had those shots laid out Ortiz, and something seriously bad happend to him such as being put in a coma or something, how would the commission the ref and the sports world feel had that been the result?
Had Ortiz been put into a coma, it would have really made Mayweather look bad. But there would be no legal implications because it was ruled a legal blow.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostIn the record books, it goes down as a ko over a real champion at welterweight. No matter how much it will be frowned upon, it's a legal win, period. It enhances his legacy, but causes debate, which in the end is still not a bad thing.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostIn the record books, it goes down as a ko over a real champion at welterweight. No matter how much it will be frowned upon, it's a legal win, period. It enhances his legacy, but causes debate, which in the end is still not a bad thing.
It's like going to a taste testing, if the people don't like the taste. The food is not well rated.
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Originally posted by DrewWoodside View PostIt's a bad sign when less than 25% of people voting think this fight does NOT enhance his legacy. Especially since for the most part legacy is decided by fan and people's perception of a fighters career.
It's like going to a taste testing, if the people don't like the taste. The food is not well rated.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostIts not like people are being objective dude.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostAre you ******ed today? his legacy is surely not affected by this, except if you are a person who has an axe to grind against floyd.
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