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  • Originally posted by dldwizard View Post
    ^^ hey time and again pac have reiterated that he's gonna take floyd's OST.. now you guys keep on posting old vids before pac and arum's saying that they will agree to any floyd's test and make it sound like pac's camp then keep on flip flopping.. now who's fscking twisting anything?
    uh huh,sure.If we are to take one guy's word for it,then someone must be lying,eh? Floyd has shown proof that he is willing to undergo testing,it is the contract that Manny refused to sign.

    Try asking team Pac at the same day if the testing will be agreed on and you will get a number of different responces-lol
    Last edited by damned1974; 09-28-2011, 01:28 AM.

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    • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
      Why take Pac and his team serious when they cannot deliver a straight and similar story?

      Anyone who is objective can see there are way too many problems and too much confusion when it comes to drug testing within team Pac.I still laugh when listening to the long list of excuses and blatant lies that Pac and his team mentioned when asked about randomized testing from the start.

      This is not about taking sides,it is about listening to the evidence that we have presented from both sides and forming a conclusion based on the facts.
      how can anyone take you seriously when you ONLY see the contradictions of ONE SIDE, when BOTH camps made numerous contradictory statements.

      I'm a HUGE pac fan and almost exclusively watch Pac fights, BUT i'm also seriously disappointed in how he handled the negotiations for a fight with floyd.

      that said, the floyd camp are no better for making numerous contradictory, RACIST statements and making numerous roadblocks in making the fight happen.

      BOTH camps are at fault, but hopefully, assuming Pac would knock out Marquez, i believe a fight between the two would happen on 2012.

      call me an optimist, but that's how i see it.

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      • ^^ holy sh|t.. i can't believe your rationalization.. if you guys want playing field then do it to everybody.. not just select a few.. DO IT TO EVERYBODY..

        and hey like i said you guys are afflicted with this 'selective reading' syndrome but pac keep on saying that he tried to see if OST's the only thing keeping the fight from happening so he agrees to everything but still floyd won't be coaxed to come out from his 'vacation'..

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        • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
          uh huh,sure.If we are to take one guy's word for it,then someone must be lying,eh? Floyd has shown proof that he is willing to undergo testing,it is the contract that Manny refused to sign.

          Try asking team Pac at the same day if the testing will be agreed on and you will get a number of different responces-lol

          holy fsck.. i can't believe your delusion.. you really, actually believe that there's a contract.. oh my god.. hey.. let's go by with the timeless ***** reasoning..


          'oh please.. show me the contract of which floyd is talking about and i'd shut my trap'..

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          • Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
            how can anyone take you seriously when you ONLY see the contradictions of ONE SIDE, when BOTH camps made numerous contradictory statements.

            I'm a HUGE pac fan and almost exclusively watch Pac fights, BUT i'm also seriously disappointed in how he handled the negotiations for a fight with floyd.

            that said, the floyd camp are no better for making numerous contradictory, RACIST statements and making numerous roadblocks in making the fight happen.

            BOTH camps are at fault, but hopefully, assuming Pac would knock out Marquez, i believe a fight between the two would happen on 2012.

            call me an optimist, but that's how i see it.
            We aren't talking about Racism,we are talking about the contradictions of team Pac and OST,and it is coming from one side.Weird.
            Last edited by damned1974; 09-28-2011, 01:38 AM.

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            • Originally posted by dldwizard View Post
              ^^ holy sh|t.. i can't believe your rationalization.. if you guys want playing field then do it to everybody.. not just select a few.. DO IT TO EVERYBODY..

              and hey like i said you guys are afflicted with this 'selective reading' syndrome but pac keep on saying that he tried to see if OST's the only thing keeping the fight from happening so he agrees to everything but still floyd won't be coaxed to come out from his 'vacation'..
              Like I said (thanks for proving my point), IMO Manny "agrees" to randomized testing WHILE FLOYD IS AWAY from the sport.When Floyd gets an opponent and returns to the sport,then Pac has an issue with USADA-sounds like posturing to me.
              Who is putting up the roadblocks when it comes to submitting to random drug testing? In fact, since Floyd has come back to boxing recently,when has Pac started to agree to random testing? Now the only thing you hear is Ariza saying they won't do the tests and say the fight is to be on Manny's terms.Are you sure it isn't YOU who has selective hearing????
              Last edited by damned1974; 09-28-2011, 01:47 AM.

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              • Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                how can anyone take you seriously when you ONLY see the contradictions of ONE SIDE, when BOTH camps made numerous contradictory statements.

                I'm a HUGE pac fan and almost exclusively watch Pac fights, BUT i'm also seriously disappointed in how he handled the negotiations for a fight with floyd.

                that said, the floyd camp are no better for making numerous contradictory, RACIST statements and making numerous roadblocks in making the fight happen.

                BOTH camps are at fault, but hopefully, assuming Pac would knock out Marquez, i believe a fight between the two would happen on 2012.

                call me an optimist, but that's how i see it.
                hopefully this fight does happen.. and there's a chance of this happening once pac get through marquez.. now that the OST question seems to be resolved with pac saying again and again that he will agree to any test floyd ask, there's still huge roadblock ahead.. both camps are ragging each other for the past 3 years because of OST only.. they haven't began with the biggest issue of all when it comes to this fight.. the PURSE split.. both of these fighters have huge egos as we have seen with the OST issues which is really a pissing contest between these two camps.. when these camps starts talking about purse split... fsck.. just try to imagine what we've gone through with the OST issue and multiply it by ten-fold..

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                • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
                  We aren't talking about Racism,we are talking about the contradictions of team Pac and OST,and it is coming from one side.Weird.
                  you may ignore the racist statements on floyd's camp, but it doesn't mean it isn't there. (in fairness though, floyd sr, roger and floyd jr did help a number of filipino pugilists. just forgot what article it was.)

                  and as i said before which you ignored as well, contradictions are coming from BOTH camps. if you can't see that, then you're simply biased.

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                  • Originally posted by dldwizard View Post
                    holy fsck.. i can't believe your delusion.. you really, actually believe that there's a contract.. oh my god.. hey.. let's go by with the timeless ***** reasoning..


                    'oh please.. show me the contract of which floyd is talking about and i'd shut my trap'..
                    Floyd showed the contract on his live stream. Why wasn't Manny's signature on it???? Weird for a guy who you claim agrees to drug testing.

                    BTW-do you think everyone should give up 10,000,000 dollars per pound over the weight limit? Just curious,because Manny has come over weight in the past-weird that he would try to assert this in a contract with Floyd.

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                    • Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                      you may ignore the racist statements on floyd's camp, but it doesn't mean it isn't there. (in fairness though, floyd sr, roger and floyd jr did help a number of filipino pugilists. just forgot what article it was.)

                      and as i said before which you ignored as well, contradictions are coming from BOTH camps. if you can't see that, then you're simply biased.
                      Who is talking about racism? Why bring it up when it is the OST/negotiations we are debating???

                      When it comes to drug testing (the topic at hand),there is only one team with contradictions-tell me who it is.

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