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  • #21
    For anyone who hasnt seen it, its up in the video trading section


    I havent had the chance to catch it myself yet and am open to changing my opinion but at this point it sounds like murder to me

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    • #22
      Originally posted by antrob View Post
      There was nothing in that program that convinced me that Gatti killed himself. CBS tried to portray that murderer c**t in a good light.
      What motive would they have for doing that?

      TV shows can have a powerful effect like that, if they had protrayed her as a murderer people on here would be saying that instead.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
        What motive would they have for doing that?

        TV shows can have a powerful effect like that, if they had protrayed her as a murderer people on here would be saying that instead.
        That is exactly right. As for motive, the only thing I can say is that any video presentation is a reflection of the filmmaker's beliefs. (Just look at director Michael Moorer's work.) They may not have a "motivation", per se, other than to convince the audience of what they believe to be true. That's not to say that the special is necessarily wrong (I haven't seen it), just that everything presented must be viewed with a critical eye.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
          What motive would they have for doing that?

          TV shows can have a powerful effect like that, if they had protrayed her as a murderer people on here would be saying that instead.
          I dont think 48 hours was trying to show her in any good light in any way shape or form I beleive this show alone is going to have plenty of evidence to use in the civil case.
          all I can say is she is clearly involved, and I also think some people very very close to Gatti are involved in this as well..
          How is it widow who was just arrested for her husbands death gets released and is blowing kisses to the people outside of the jail house like she is a ****ing movie star?
          Not only that, How is it if you were arrested as a possible suspect in my brothers death there is no way your comming up to visit me after they release you...
          I hate to say this **** but I think Arturos Brother is involved based on this show... and some people that were close to Arturo but from what I have learned last night on that show Joe Gatti looks very suspect to me..

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          • #25
            Originally posted by antrob View Post
            There was nothing in that program that convinced me that Gatti killed himself. CBS tried to portray that murderer c**t in a good light.

            I agree Gatti liked to party addiction has always been Gatti go back the the mid 90s the kid just liked to have a good time so what if he was still living it up that doesnt mean he killed himself.

            And just because he was sad that his career was over or depressed that doesnt mean he killed himself neither I am sure alot of fighters go through that. what I can point out is that there are two different storys how Arturo and Amanda met, Amanda says it was while walking her dog...

            However people that knew Gatti say Gatti said he met her at a strip club, Okay great but Amanda denys okay great, theres no record of her working there, Okay Great but she is illegal do you think the strip club will keep records of un documented workers they illegally allowed to work?

            Okay so skip that part Amanda denies having worked there, But plenty of strippers that do work there says she did work there and actually have pictures of her on the stage....

            When you have to lie about the simple things such as how you met your husband, something isnt right.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by uglypug View Post
              Well after rehashing through all the evidence again, and listening to new testimony from amanda herself, and everyone else - I believe that Gatti took his own life.

              Now that his brother said he had been/was still addicted to pain-killers, I would bet almost anything the legendary warrior found himself in a very dark place, and in a moment of weakness and inebriation, took his own life.

              May God bless your soul, and may you rest in peace Arturo. . . May the next life treat you better - your family and loved one's will meet your soul under the ceiba tree.
              After looking at the last 20 minutes those were my thoughts as well. I was already leaning towards that conclusion. Gatti was obviously a very troubled man. Tragic all the way around.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
                all I can say is she is clearly involved, and I also think some people very very close to Gatti are involved in this as well..
                How is it widow who was just arrested for her husbands death gets released and is blowing kisses to the people outside of the jail house like she is a ****ing movie star?
                Not only that, How is it if you were arrested as a possible suspect in my brothers death there is no way your comming up to visit me after they release you...
                I hate to say this **** but I think Arturos Brother is involved based on this show... and some people that were close to Arturo but from what I have learned last night on that show Joe Gatti looks very suspect to me..
                U cant judge her based on her reactions (blowing kisses). In such a bizarre and stressful situation people dont always behave the way u expect them to.
                And if i was Gatti's family, id like to talk to his wife after she was released to find out what happened. So them inviting her over to their house makes sense.

                Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3 View Post
                I agree Gatti liked to party addiction has always been Gatti go back the the mid 90s the kid just liked to have a good time so what if he was still living it up that doesnt mean he killed himself.

                And just because he was sad that his career was over or depressed that doesnt mean he killed himself neither I am sure alot of fighters go through that. what I can point out is that there are two different storys how Arturo and Amanda met, Amanda says it was while walking her dog...

                However people that knew Gatti say Gatti said he met her at a strip club, Okay great but Amanda denys okay great, theres no record of her working there, Okay Great but she is illegal do you think the strip club will keep records of un documented workers they illegally allowed to work?

                Okay so skip that part Amanda denies having worked there, But plenty of strippers that do work there says she did work there and actually have pictures of her on the stage....

                When you have to lie about the simple things such as how you met your husband, something isnt right.
                Her not wanting to get in trouble for being a stripper illegally has nothing to do with whether she killed Gatti or not. Many strippers dont want people to know they are or used to be a stripper. Doesnt mean for a second she is capable of murder.

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                • #28
                  After watching the program, I think two conclusions are inevitable:

                  1) suicide
                  2) breast implants

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                  • #29
                    The thing is, NONE of us will ever know what the really happened. At this point it's a he said she said - but there are still things that don't add up. After watching the show, you still have to take in account that the ONLY person backing up Amandas story is Amanda. And as far as Arturro's brother Joe goes, I've thought all along that she was just able to fool him the way she fooled Arturro. They even said that the first person in Arturros family that Amanda went to was Joe, and he just said he believed her based on what she said to him. Obviously she was close enough with Joe to leave baby Arturro Jr. with Joe while she went out of town. She appears to be very good at twisting men around her finger, she also comes off as someone that is very good at lying. Everytime the interviewer asked her part in a fight that she and Arturro had, she said "I don't want to talk about that." Even denying hitting Arturro, even though HE had scratches and black eyes on numerous occasions. She said she only "threw things" at him. She must be a helluva shot.

                    Another thing you have to take in to account is that, even if you find yourself leaning towards the suicide theory, is that they showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that Arturro could not have fallen sideways when the purse strap broke. It is physiologically impossible. Also, the steak knife. What purpose did it have? They claim the strap broke and was not cut. Furthermore, they had also stated that Arturro could not have been bleeding at the supposive time of hanging, because there would have been blood dripping down the back of his neck and on to his back, and there was none there. It is clear, even from the photos, that the injury that caused the bleeding happened AFTER (or as) he hit the ground. Again, HE COULD NOT HAVE FALLEN SIDEWAYS, it is impossible. And again, what purpose did the knife have?

                    But, too many things still don't add up, and in the end and after watching and listening to Amanda speak, I believe she is still hiding something. Again, she did not have ONE single person backing her story, of anything really, and why would 4 strangers lie about her working in a strip club (atleast 2 of them said she worked WITH them). And if she's lying about that (on camera - to YOU), then she shows herself as a l-i-a-r. What else is she lying about? A lot IMO. But yet, it is still possible that Arturro killed himself. In that case, she still has more to do with it then she is willing to admit IMHO. It might be something as little as actually knowing that he was dead far earlier then she admits, who knows. But it's clear that she knows more then she is willing to tell.

                    The interview only seemed to bring up more questions than answers IMO, with seasoned investigators for the program 48 Hours Mystery being extremely ADAMANT that Arturro Gatti was murdered. However, the only truth we know for certain, is that Arturro Gatti (RIP) is dead. He was imperfect, as we all are, and he was a boxing warrior loved by the masses.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by The Noose View Post
                      U cant judge her based on her reactions (blowing kisses). In such a bizarre and stressful situation people dont always behave the way u expect them to.
                      And if i was Gatti's family, id like to talk to his wife after she was released to find out what happened. So them inviting her over to their house makes sense.



                      Her not wanting to get in trouble for being a stripper illegally has nothing to do with whether she killed Gatti or not. Many strippers dont want people to know they are or used to be a stripper. Doesnt mean for a second she is capable of murder.
                      You are right a poor chick from Brazil charged with her husbands murder, gets released and blowing kisses to people outside of the court house doesnt look suspect.

                      Neither does her lyin about how they met, she says walking the dog everybody else says the strip club, at this point she isnt getting in trouble for working there if she admits to it, what it does do is bring into question the statements made by woman who have heard her say she was going to kill him.

                      Here is what we have from that special so far.

                      Gattis estate reasigned

                      Witnesses report they heard her state she was going to show Gatti what a real ***** is, that she is going to kill him.

                      alot of Blood on the kitchen Floor that she says came from an injury to the back of Arturos head outside a bar or some ****, was hit with a rock and a bike according to her story.

                      Where is the trail of blood leading in or through out the apartment? thats alot of blood on the floor so you would expect to see a trail of blood through the apartment.

                      The Knife... whats that about?

                      I honestly think she is involved this was not suicide its been proven that the purse strap can not hold more than 78 pounds before snapping.... Gatti weighs much more than that.

                      Cameras do not show anybody entering or leaving other than the two, is there another way in with out a camera being there? where the investigators even given the true tapes?

                      The last two or three friends of Gatti interviewed, basicly look suspect to me and I wouldnt be surprised if they were all involved in his death, including Joe, who never got a payday like Gatti who never had the fame or career that Gatti did who was basicly a lower level club fighter who knows he may have got in deep with the wrong people and owed people some money.

                      This doesnt spell suicide this show did not prove her to be a victim here, if anything it makes her look more suspect.

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