48 hours gatti special - FINAL THOUGHTS

[viperz007]

You are right a poor chick from Brazil charged with her husbands murder, gets released and blowing kisses to people outside of the court house doesnt look suspect.

Neither does her lyin about how they met, she says walking the dog everybody else says the strip club, at this point she isnt getting in trouble for working there if she admits to it, what it does do is bring into question the statements made by woman who have heard her say she was going to kill him.

Here is what we have from that special so far.

Gattis estate reasigned

Witnesses report they heard her state she was going to show Gatti what a real ***** is, that she is going to kill him.

alot of Blood on the kitchen Floor that she says came from an injury to the back of Arturos head outside a bar or some ****, was hit with a rock and a bike according to her story.

Where is the trail of blood leading in or through out the apartment? thats alot of blood on the floor so you would expect to see a trail of blood through the apartment.

The Knife... whats that about?

I honestly think she is involved this was not suicide its been proven that the purse strap can not hold more than 78 pounds before snapping.... Gatti weighs much more than that.

Cameras do not show anybody entering or leaving other than the two, is there another way in with out a camera being there? where the investigators even given the true tapes?

The last two or three friends of Gatti interviewed, basicly look suspect to me and I wouldnt be surprised if they were all involved in his death, including Joe, who never got a payday like Gatti who never had the fame or career that Gatti did who was basicly a lower level club fighter who knows he may have got in deep with the wrong people and owed people some money.

This doesnt spell suicide this show did not prove her to be a victim here, if anything it makes her look more suspect.

your right about the track of blood that should be around the apartment if it happened outside

but there are also points that makes this case really hard to solve
1. there is no way she could have done it herself
the only way she could have done it is if she had a help
which makes this other points questionable also
1. why did she do it inside her apartment?
2. why did she used her own purse strap to make it look like it was arturo who did it?
if she did it herself she wont make it look like she did it right? if she payed someone to do it she wouldnt allow that to happen inside her apartment where it makes her look like the killer

i know she might be lying about stuff like she works in a bar or when she found him on the floor the first time
but i do believe that there are peole who lies because of how shock and scared they are,
like imagine you saw ur own husband lying in the floor dead, and your purse straps been used to hang himself,
sometimes u create some lies out of nervousness and at the same time grief that will help prove urself being innocent
because u know that it happened at ur place which makes u the 80% suspect

this case is really complicating
my blame are going to be on the first investigator that came on the scene for lack of evidence,
1.they didnt check the purse strap for hand prints
2.if she did it herself they should be able to see the object that was used to hit him inside her apartment coz they also didnt see her coming out of the house
3.not sure if they got the right tape

here is my own opinion:
i think it gatti was murdered
i think it was done by a paid professional group that does this kind of job, and i cant think of a clear motive
it can be that they made it look like a suicide and at the same time made it look like she did it, hehe i dunno guys

its just too complicating because of the lack of evidence due to unprofessional job done by the first investigator that first came to the scene.

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Always felt the suicide argument was more realistic, only agree more after watching the special.

Sad sad story.

actually Paulf, since this has happened your toughts have always been that he comitted suicide. my friend, you have no idea why cbs and the 48 hours folks decided to take amanda's side...and only interview those that had issues with Arturo....like his own brother Joe and of course mario, because Joe needs his back up becasue he owes Mario money....anyways it's a lot more convoluted than you'll ever imagine

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coz if it was her that hit his head they should be seeing her on the cameras going out and try to hide or burnt the evidence also right?

and, what cameras are you referring to?

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I just don't see how anybody could have gotten in the apartment without the camera picking it up? The head wounds came from being hit in the head by rocks (and a bicycle, wtf?). The purse strap did break after like 15-20 minutes, which by then Arturo was already dead.

The initial investigation was probably botched, or at least not carried out properly and thoroughly. I also admit there are some red flags - the insurance policy being switched and maybe the purse strap.

I don't want to believe it, but there are more signs that point to suicide than homicide, IMO. I know he was a warrior in the ring, but the game of life can be much MUCH more vicious and brutal than boxing.

What friggan camera's is everybody referring to? security cameras? come on, if there was any....and i mean "any" sort of video survelliance footage of either one of them, don't you think that would have been released

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the cuts and blood from his head were from the night before - numerous witnesses with nothing to gain testifying to that fact.

i just think when you start going down the cover-up and conspiracy road it gets a little too far-fetched. reality makes a lot more sense - he was depressed, and addicted to pain-killers. he felt so disgusted with what he did to his wife especially around his baby, and he just couldn't take it. . .

are you aware that paulo albares the 2nd chief investigative officer, [COLOR="Black"]acertained the gatti family that they had plenty of evidence to prosecute her for murder, then without any courtesy call, they announced that the case was closed as suicide and amanda was set free.

[Clutch93]

So was this hour special biased or what? I dont trust the news.

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your right about the track of blood that should be around the apartment if it happened outside

but there are also points that makes this case really hard to solve
1. there is no way she could have done it herself
the only way she could have done it is if she had a help
which makes this other points questionable also
1. why did she do it inside her apartment?
2. why did she used her own purse strap to make it look like it was arturo who did it?
if she did it herself she wont make it look like she did it right? if she payed someone to do it she wouldnt allow that to happen inside her apartment where it makes her look like the killer

i know she might be lying about stuff like she works in a bar or when she found him on the floor the first time
but i do believe that there are peole who lies because of how shock and scared they are,
like imagine you saw ur own husband lying in the floor dead, and your purse straps been used to hang himself,
sometimes u create some lies out of nervousness and at the same time grief that will help prove urself being innocent
because u know that it happened at ur place which makes u the 80% suspect

this case is really complicating
my blame are going to be on the first investigator that came on the scene for lack of evidence,
1.they didnt check the purse strap for hand prints
2.if she did it herself they should be able to see the object that was used to hit him inside her apartment coz they also didnt see her coming out of the house
3.not sure if they got the right tape

here is my own opinion:
i think it gatti was murdered
i think it was done by a paid professional group that does this kind of job, and i cant think of a clear motive
it can be that they made it look like a suicide and at the same time made it look like she did it, hehe i dunno guys

its just too complicating because of the lack of evidence due to unprofessional job done by the first investigator that first came to the scene.

I am confident that the investigators did not show all the evidence they found in that 48 hour special, they would be ****** to display all their findings there, thats what the court room is for.

The blood is the key there was alot of blood doesnt look like your typical injury as if you were hit by someone outside of a night club, no trail leading in the apartment meaning Gatti took the blow to the head there.

I think she hit him with something and used that purse strap to finish him off... and I doubt that she would find it normal that he would just pass out drunk like that, most people have enough sense to make it to a couch or something.

either way, there are alot more questions about her than answers, I also beleive Joe Gatti knows something, I mean let me put it to you like this, if there was any way I heard some chick was arrested in connection with my brothers death I will be damned if she comes and visits me when she gets out...

Even if the Brazilian police cleared her, something isnt right with that picture at all especially the way she was blowing kisses to people and all smiles like a movie star when she was released those are not actions of a woman whos husband committed suicide.

To me those are actions of a woman who saw the $$$$$ as she was released knowing that the estate is about to be signed over to her....
People bring up that Knife, listen I dont think the Knife has that much relevance to the case, lets be real this happend in the Kitchen/dining area any kind of silverware could have been present.

What I will say is that the blow to the back of his head, that much blood on the floor and she didnt notice it until the morning? I mean the first time she went down stairs she did not notice this?

Something isnt adding up with her story and this whole suicide theory is BS, She has told people she was going to kill him...

Her story about being abused, the pictures she showed on that show, those wounds are not seen on her pictures when she was taken into custody....

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I hate to admit it, but I agree - Gatti, as much of a warrior as he was - definitely had the machismo "male dominates the house" attitude. im saying he was still probably a good man, but im sure he beat on her. . .

too bad Gatti is not around to describe how SHE beat on him...but there are certain people that have seen her be physically violent with him, yet in the show, when she is asked, she downplayed her violent ways and merely stated "i just threw things at him"....if yall.."The Public" really knew what she was like...come to think about it...all you need to do is go to court in montreal and see the real her being asked simple questions that she is going round and round on...THAT is reality!

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i think ur right dude

yeah i knew some depressed people too
they have that feeling like they just want to jump off a building
just to end their suffering

where they able to get some hand prints or fingerprints on her purse straps though?

Boy OH bOY are you both ever so wrong in your guesstimated assumptions

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I really don't know anymore, it has turned into a wierd one as different evidence can turn it either way.

One thing is for sure, this would have been done and dusted if the Brazilian investigators weren't so incompetant at there jobs.

my friend, the reason why you are now not so sure as to what happened because 48 hours's erin moriety had major media politcal issues with Paul ciolino and his investigative ways, and so she decided to go literally 180 degrees opposite of Paul's conclusion