Floyd's behavior is more su****ious than Pac's when it comes to PED use!

[Vasyl’s dad]

LMAO I stopped reading after I saw "fax". Unless you're going to fax me something, I can't see why that word would be in this thread. Especially when you're calling people ****** moron's and all LMAO...

Here's a few words of advice. I'll help you save yourself further embarrassment in this thread. Find my first post in this thread then read on from there. I won't do further damage to you. Especially when enough is enough.

Further embarrassment?

The only embarrassing thing here, is you believing you have some kind of stance when its not only me that has put you in your place, but Deevil as well.

There is no reason, nor any basis for any extra tests for one fighter, especially when the fighter who is doing all of the accusing, is the fighter who has the most damaging evidence against him.

This, was written almost a year ago, and is looking more and more like the truth every single day.




Lets start from the top.

- father, a convicted drug dealer
- uncle and trainer, known drug user
- a family that has been in the professional boxing business for over 30 years

Now, with those facts laid out, its easy to see that this family knows the ins and outs of the professional sport from technique and form, to judges and refs, to shortcuts and doping. Its well known that they love to talk about how if you're not a boxer, " you don't know s hit". Again, for a family of professional boxers who have been in the sport for over 30 years, its quite clear they have easily cheated the sport, opponents and its fans with Floyd Mayweather Jrs. career. Floyds dad, has talked about how he knows someone in the sport who had been using steroids for quite a long time, but won't say who. I know most people wouldn't rat out their children, so why would Sr? Red flag alert.

Lets recap Floyds career. He'll quite happily tell you that hes a
5 division champion in less than 10 years, a feat that nobody in the storied history of boxing has achieved. Thats extraordinary, especially for a guy who barely won a bronze medal at the Olympics. Red flag alert.

From his beginnings as a jr. lightweight to lightweight, he had 31 fights, all victories, with 22 KOs for a KO rate of 70%. Now we all know of his hand problems, which is why, as he went higher in weight, his brittle hands couldn't produce as many knockouts. Thats interesting, seeing as how steroid use causes bones to become more fragile. Whats even more interesting is that in over 30 years as a professional boxing family, never, ever, did the Mayweathers acknowledge a need for any even playing fields, in any of their fights. For a family who knows the ins and outs of the sport, why wouldn't they dare acknowledge steroid use within the sport early in Floyds career, or before? "you're not a boxer, you don't know s hit". Red flag alert.

It seems to me, that as Floyds career went on, he was getting bigger and bulkier, while remaining one of the sports fastest. However, there was a price to pay, his hands became more brittle as the years went by. And, his head was getting bigger from the time he was 16. Red flag alert.

Now, lets move on to Floyds career above 135. Hands aren't quite as solid due to heavy use of steroids, so the KOs become less common. From 2004, to 2007, he fought, on average, twice a year. In 2007, the Mosley-Balco scandal became well known. You know what else happened in 2007? Floyd had his last fight before "retiring". Why would someone, who had just gained a newfound celebrity and popularity within the mainstream by defeating two very popular opponents, suddenly "retire" at his peak? He manhandled Oscar De La Hoya at jr. middleweight and knocked out the previously unbeaten Ricky Hatton. Pretty odd that someone would retire right after that. Red flag alert.

Could it be that Floyd needed time to detox? He did say that his body, "needed time to heal". We all know how Floyd loves to portray himself as some thug, and we all know how dudes from the street talk in code, so could that be it? He did stay out of boxing for almost 2 years before returning. But, within that time of "retirement", he was known to pal around with 50 Cent, another former drug dealer and body building type, and he did have that stint on WWE, aka, the Steroid Freaks Haven. If anyone knows how to cycle and detox, it would be professional wrestlers. Red flag alert.

Floyd comes back from "retirement" bigger and stronger than ever with added mass and bulk after the Mosley-Balco talks die down. Head is looking a bit larger as well. It was easy to see how much larger he was than his opponent Juan Manuel Marquez, who is only an inch shorter than Floyd. But it was the body mass that showed the discrepancy in size. Add to the fact that Floyd refused to give a fight night weight, and you have a su****ious character in the ring. He was easily a middleweight that night with all of the added muscle. Red flag alert.

For someone who supposedly would like to prove they are not using any PEDs,

why won't Floyd agree to year round random drug testing since he wants an "even playing field"?

That to me, sounds like a Red flag alert.


I know lots of weed smokers who will agree to take a drug test any time, but when you mention, "year round random drug testing"

"OH NO".


I think since Floyd isn't on a testing schedule right now,

hes probably been roiding after the Mosley bout.

Facts
Beat up his baby momma in a fit of rage.
Put up a racist tirade against Manny Pacquiao in a fit of rage.
Poked a security guard in the face in a fit of rage.


Red flag alert.

[BoxingGenius27]

Steriods, are PEDs.

fax

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...n-steroids-hgh

http://www.hghpills.org/articles/ste...th-hormone.htm

I'll start this counseling session as simple as possible lol

Steroids vs HGH, there's a difference.

Haha you're the person calling people ****** morons?

[BoxingGenius27]

Further embarrassment?

The only embarrassing thing here, is you believing you have some kind of stance when its not only me that has put you in your place, but Deevil as well.

There is no reason, nor any basis for any extra tests for one fighter, especially when the fighter who is doing all of the accusing, is the fighter who has the most damaging evidence against him.

This, was written almost a year ago, and is looking more and more like the truth every single day.




Lets start from the top.

- father, a convicted drug dealer
- uncle and trainer, known drug user
- a family that has been in the professional boxing business for over 30 years

Now, with those facts laid out, its easy to see that this family knows the ins and outs of the professional sport from technique and form, to judges and refs, to shortcuts and doping. Its well known that they love to talk about how if you're not a boxer, " you don't know s hit". Again, for a family of professional boxers who have been in the sport for over 30 years, its quite clear they have easily cheated the sport, opponents and its fans with Floyd Mayweather Jrs. career. Floyds dad, has talked about how he knows someone in the sport who had been using steroids for quite a long time, but won't say who. I know most people wouldn't rat out their children, so why would Sr? Red flag alert.

Lets recap Floyds career. He'll quite happily tell you that hes a
5 division champion in less than 10 years, a feat that nobody in the storied history of boxing has achieved. Thats extraordinary, especially for a guy who barely won a bronze medal at the Olympics. Red flag alert.

From his beginnings as a jr. lightweight to lightweight, he had 31 fights, all victories, with 22 KOs for a KO rate of 70%. Now we all know of his hand problems, which is why, as he went higher in weight, his brittle hands couldn't produce as many knockouts. Thats interesting, seeing as how steroid use causes bones to become more fragile. Whats even more interesting is that in over 30 years as a professional boxing family, never, ever, did the Mayweathers acknowledge a need for any even playing fields, in any of their fights. For a family who knows the ins and outs of the sport, why wouldn't they dare acknowledge steroid use within the sport early in Floyds career, or before? "you're not a boxer, you don't know s hit". Red flag alert.

It seems to me, that as Floyds career went on, he was getting bigger and bulkier, while remaining one of the sports fastest. However, there was a price to pay, his hands became more brittle as the years went by. And, his head was getting bigger from the time he was 16. Red flag alert.

Now, lets move on to Floyds career above 135. Hands aren't quite as solid due to heavy use of steroids, so the KOs become less common. From 2004, to 2007, he fought, on average, twice a year. In 2007, the Mosley-Balco scandal became well known. You know what else happened in 2007? Floyd had his last fight before "retiring". Why would someone, who had just gained a newfound celebrity and popularity within the mainstream by defeating two very popular opponents, suddenly "retire" at his peak? He manhandled Oscar De La Hoya at jr. middleweight and knocked out the previously unbeaten Ricky Hatton. Pretty odd that someone would retire right after that. Red flag alert.

Could it be that Floyd needed time to detox? He did say that his body, "needed time to heal". We all know how Floyd loves to portray himself as some thug, and we all know how dudes from the street talk in code, so could that be it? He did stay out of boxing for almost 2 years before returning. But, within that time of "retirement", he was known to pal around with 50 Cent, another former drug dealer and body building type, and he did have that stint on WWE, aka, the Steroid Freaks Haven. If anyone knows how to cycle and detox, it would be professional wrestlers. Red flag alert.

Floyd comes back from "retirement" bigger and stronger than ever with added mass and bulk after the Mosley-Balco talks die down. Head is looking a bit larger as well. It was easy to see how much larger he was than his opponent Juan Manuel Marquez, who is only an inch shorter than Floyd. But it was the body mass that showed the discrepancy in size. Add to the fact that Floyd refused to give a fight night weight, and you have a su****ious character in the ring. He was easily a middleweight that night with all of the added muscle. Red flag alert.

For someone who supposedly would like to prove they are not using any PEDs,

why won't Floyd agree to year round random drug testing since he wants an "even playing field"?

That to me, sounds like a Red flag alert.


I know lots of weed smokers who will agree to take a drug test any time, but when you mention, "year round random drug testing"

"OH NO".


I think since Floyd isn't on a testing schedule right now,

hes probably been roiding after the Mosley bout.

Facts
Beat up his baby momma in a fit of rage.
Put up a racist tirade against Manny Pacquiao in a fit of rage.
Poked a security guard in the face in a fit of rage.


Red flag alert.

The more and more I read your post, I'm starting to wonder if you can actually read. If you could read, you would be able to clearly see that Deevil didn't own anyone, especially not me.

You copying and pasting will not change the fact that you're obviously very ignorant who doesn't take the time to think before he speaks.

[Toyman]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...n-steroids-hgh

http://www.hghpills.org/articles/ste...th-hormone.htm

I'll start this counseling session as simple as possible lol

Steroids vs HGH, there's a difference.

Haha you're the person calling people ****** morons?

Yes, but then again

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...da-backs-urine

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yes, but then again

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...da-backs-urine

As many of us have said all along,

The Floyd Commission testing,

is phony and is not a deterrent.

[BoxingGenius27]

Yes, but then again

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...da-backs-urine

Toyman, I was replying to someone that said steroids and PED's are the same, then here you come posting something completely irrelevant.

But, I'll take the time to hear you out. Explain to me your purpose in posting an article that says HGH has never been found in OST?

[Vasyl’s dad]

The more and more I read your post, I'm starting to wonder if you can actually read. If you could read, you would be able to clearly see that Deevil didn't own anyone, especially not me.

You copying and pasting will not change the fact that you're obviously very ignorant who doesn't take the time to think before he speaks.

The more you read my post, the more you realize how right we are.

Floyd is more than likely the one doing PEDs, and more than likely, has been for decades.

The proof is in the pudding sweetcheeks.

Lets start from the top.

- father, a convicted drug dealer
- uncle and trainer, known drug user
- a family that has been in the professional boxing business for over 30 years

Now, with those facts laid out, its easy to see that this family knows the ins and outs of the professional sport from technique and form, to judges and refs, to shortcuts and doping. Its well known that they love to talk about how if you're not a boxer, " you don't know s hit". Again, for a family of professional boxers who have been in the sport for over 30 years, its quite clear they have easily cheated the sport, opponents and its fans with Floyd Mayweather Jrs. career. Floyds dad, has talked about how he knows someone in the sport who had been using steroids for quite a long time, but won't say who. I know most people wouldn't rat out their children, so why would Sr? Red flag alert.

Lets recap Floyds career. He'll quite happily tell you that hes a
5 division champion in less than 10 years, a feat that nobody in the storied history of boxing has achieved. Thats extraordinary, especially for a guy who barely won a bronze medal at the Olympics. Red flag alert.

From his beginnings as a jr. lightweight to lightweight, he had 31 fights, all victories, with 22 KOs for a KO rate of 70%. Now we all know of his hand problems, which is why, as he went higher in weight, his brittle hands couldn't produce as many knockouts. Thats interesting, seeing as how steroid use causes bones to become more fragile. Whats even more interesting is that in over 30 years as a professional boxing family, never, ever, did the Mayweathers acknowledge a need for any even playing fields, in any of their fights. For a family who knows the ins and outs of the sport, why wouldn't they dare acknowledge steroid use within the sport early in Floyds career, or before? "you're not a boxer, you don't know s hit". Red flag alert.

It seems to me, that as Floyds career went on, he was getting bigger and bulkier, while remaining one of the sports fastest. However, there was a price to pay, his hands became more brittle as the years went by. And, his head was getting bigger from the time he was 16. Red flag alert.

Now, lets move on to Floyds career above 135. Hands aren't quite as solid due to heavy use of steroids, so the KOs become less common. From 2004, to 2007, he fought, on average, twice a year. In 2007, the Mosley-Balco scandal became well known. You know what else happened in 2007? Floyd had his last fight before "retiring". Why would someone, who had just gained a newfound celebrity and popularity within the mainstream by defeating two very popular opponents, suddenly "retire" at his peak? He manhandled Oscar De La Hoya at jr. middleweight and knocked out the previously unbeaten Ricky Hatton. Pretty odd that someone would retire right after that. Red flag alert.

Could it be that Floyd needed time to detox? He did say that his body, "needed time to heal". We all know how Floyd loves to portray himself as some thug, and we all know how dudes from the street talk in code, so could that be it? He did stay out of boxing for almost 2 years before returning. But, within that time of "retirement", he was known to pal around with 50 Cent, another former drug dealer and body building type, and he did have that stint on WWE, aka, the Steroid Freaks Haven. If anyone knows how to cycle and detox, it would be professional wrestlers. Red flag alert.

Floyd comes back from "retirement" bigger and stronger than ever with added mass and bulk after the Mosley-Balco talks die down. Head is looking a bit larger as well. It was easy to see how much larger he was than his opponent Juan Manuel Marquez, who is only an inch shorter than Floyd. But it was the body mass that showed the discrepancy in size. Add to the fact that Floyd refused to give a fight night weight, and you have a su****ious character in the ring. He was easily a middleweight that night with all of the added muscle. Red flag alert.

For someone who supposedly would like to prove they are not using any PEDs,

why won't Floyd agree to year round random drug testing since he wants an "even playing field"?

That to me, sounds like a Red flag alert.


I know lots of weed smokers who will agree to take a drug test any time, but when you mention, "year round random drug testing"

"OH NO".


I think since Floyd isn't on a testing schedule right now,

hes probably been roiding after the Mosley bout.

Facts
Beat up his baby momma in a fit of rage.
Put up a racist tirade against Manny Pacquiao in a fit of rage.
Poked a security guard in the face in a fit of rage.


Red flag alert.

[Toyman]

Also worth reading: http://www.steroids.info/2011/08/07/...its-nfl-debut/

While anti-doping crusaders are lauding the introduction of hGH testing in the NFL as a major victory, they are overlooking the fact that the blood test for hGH is largely considered ineffective.Its ineffectiveness is due to the fact that the window for detecting exogenous hGH use with the blood test is extremely short – less than 48 hours.

If people are so quick to accuse pac of using HGH, you might want to at least know that the test is unlikely to catch anyone.

The hGH blood test has been in existence since the 2004 Athens Olympics and after thousands and thousands of tests, it can claim only a handful of analytical positives for hGH.

British rugby player Terry Newton was reported to be the first athletes caught using hGH as a result of an analytical positive from the blood test. However, the truth of the matter is that the drug testers knew in advance that Newton was using human growth hormone before they tested him.

That said, i'm not against olympic style testing, just that it seems ineffective at best to be honest.

I'm no expert on this - but my take is that the only possible ped you could accuse pac of is hgh, and from what ive read - HGH is near useless without other steroids helping you, which would be detected in the urine tests anyway.

[BoxingGenius27]

The more you read my post, the more you realize how right we are.

Floyd is more than likely the one doing PEDs, and more than likely, has been for decades.

The proof is in the pudding sweetcheeks.

I just proved your BS theories wrong with 3 posts straight.

Haha then you turn around and log into one of your alts.

You're credibility is completely shot. Just read the last 2 pages that I've been proving your ignorant statements wrong.

No amount of copying and pasting will change that.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I just proved your BS theories wrong with 3 posts straight.

Haha then you turn around and log into one of your alts.

You're credibility is completely shot. Just read the last 2 pages that I've been proving your ignorant statements wrong.

No amount of copying and pasting will change that.

uh, I've had the same user id since I've been here, with no alts.

You, have proved nothing wrong, with any post.