Kenny Bayless gives his thoughts on Mayweather-Ortiz.

[Dave Rado]

What most people are missing is that the real issue isn't whether Ortiz deserved what he got, but whether the fans deserved what they got. They didn't. Mayweather got paid $40 million for this fight, money which ultimately came from the fans, and in return he delivered a hugely anti-climactic ending. Anyone can get a knock-out by hitting someone who is looking at the ref and has his hands down. It doesn't take a great fighter to be able to do that. But Floyd is a great fighter, and could have got a highlight reel knock-out and sent the fans home happy, instead of giving the fans a massively anti-climactic ending. If he'd done that everyone would have been celebrating a great performance by a true master boxer instead of debating the rights and wrongs of the way the fight ended. Floyd let the fans who pay him down, and himself down, by taking advantage of a man who wasn't in a position to defend himself when he had the ability to get the knock-out using his skills.

And Cortez screwed up big time by looking at the timekeepers instead of at the action at the crucial moment.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I am a amateur boxing trainer in phoenix. When these kids start boxing the ref is not allowed to talk they give hand gestures to make sure everybody understands whats going on. I would've loved to see the fight finish but when cortez said lets go and waived them in to fight Floyd and Ortiz knew what was going on thats why they both walked up on each other. the problem is Ortiz wanted one more apology and Floyd was ready to fight. Thats all ortiz knows better he has been boxing for a long time.

I have seen this point made many times since the fight. It's the most valid argument...period. As an old instructor of mine was fond of saying, "Life ain't fair." It really isn't. Victor Ortiz, of all people, should have learned that by now. Call Floyd a coward, dirty, un-sportsmanlike...whatever. It may all be true, but his victory will stand forever in the books because what he did was legal.

[Ring Leader]

Kenny Bayless is classic with his wide open eyes, looks into your SOUL

[Konstantin]

Doesnt the ref have to look at the time keeper everytime he calls time in, where in boxing history has there been a time limit for the ref to call time in. The Cortez stopped the action, deducted the point, bring both fighters together and called time in, he did his job, time was in period, stop making excuses the ref should not be the escape goat!

where are we riding this escape goat?

[CubanGuyNYC]

What most people are missing is that the real issue isn't whether Ortiz deserved what he got, but whether the fans deserved what they got. They didn't. Mayweather got paid $40 million for this fight, money which ultimately came from the fans, and in return he delivered a hugely anti-climactic ending. Anyone can get a knock-out by hitting someone who is looking at the ref and has his hands down. It doesn't take a great fighter to be able to do that. But Floyd is a great fighter, and could have got a highlight reel knock-out and sent the fans home happy, instead of giving the fans a massively anti-climactic ending. If he'd done that everyone would have been celebrating a great performance by a true master boxer instead of debating the rights and wrongs of the way the fight ended. Floyd let the fans who pay him down, and himself down, by taking advantage of a man who wasn't in a position to defend himself when he had the ability to get the knock-out using his skills.

And Cortez screwed up big time by looking at the timekeepers instead of at the action at the crucial moment.

Dave, I understand you're really upset about Mayweather not giving the fans their money's worth, but I utterly disagree with your rationale. Anything can happen in a fight. Floyd gets caught with one lucky shot and he wakes up in the hospital with his "zero" gone. I didn't like the outcome any more than you did, but I understand Mayweather's desire to hit the showers early. He came, he fought, he won. He did his part. Remember when Mike Tyson was knocking everyone out in the first round or two? That got old for me real fast. But was he supposed to carry his opponents a few rounds in order to give the fans a better show?

[MrRolltide91]

Dave, I understand you're really upset about Mayweather not giving the fans their money's worth, but I utterly disagree with your rationale. Anything can happen in a fight. Floyd gets caught with one lucky shot and he wakes up in the hospital with his "zero" gone. I didn't like the outcome any more than you did, but I understand Mayweather's desire to hit the showers early. He came, he fought, he won. He did his part. Remember when Mike Tyson was knocking everyone out in the first round or two? That got old for me real fast. But was he supposed to carry his opponents a few rounds in order to give the fans a better show?

good point...

[John Barron]

i would've loved to have seen more rounds but i was satisfied with saturday's PPV overall. we got more boxing in 4 rounds than the entire pac-clottey/mosley fights combined.

[Dave Rado]

Remember when Mike Tyson was knocking everyone out in the first round or two? That got old for me real fast. But was he supposed to carry his opponents a few rounds in order to give the fans a better show?

Those fights weren't anti-climactic at all. He ended them excitingly using his skills and power. He did not hit someone who was looking the other way, who had his hands by his side, and who clearly didn't realise the fight had recommenced.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Those fights weren't anti-climactic at all. He ended them excitingly using his skills and power. He did not hit someone who was looking the other way, who had his hands by his side, and who clearly didn't realise the fight had recommenced.

Tyson's knockouts got surprisingly dull due to the predictability of their speed. Ever wonder why those guys with the most amazing looking women cheat? Because it gets old! lol

As for not realizing "the fight had recommenced": whose fault is that? Was Mayweather supposed to advise Ortiz to put his dukes up? Once again, I don't necessarily like what Floyd did, but he was well within his rights. I can't blame him for walking in the door that Victor left wide open.

[Dave Rado]

Tyson's knockouts got surprisingly dull due to the predictability of their speed. Ever wonder why those guys with the most amazing looking women cheat? Because it gets old! lol

I didn't find them dull. And even if you did it's disingenious to compare a knock-out based on skills and power with one based on an opponent having his hands by his side and looking at the ref.

As for not realizing "the fight had recommenced": whose fault is that?

You're missing the point. The point is that the fans lost out and Mayweather didn't need to win that way. He had the skills to win on merit.