Mayweather. Tekken. Street Fighter

[neiman]

We're just playing man, and I'm sure the TS doesn't actually think real fights are like a fighting game (although Virtua Fighter is getting real close). Just that the strategies are similar.

we have a winner!

[Shogunofharlem1]

tekken maybe, street fighter sucks you can never stay on the inside because when you hit(or attacks or blocked) you slide back a sht load

tekken is beast with teh jabs to get your opponent to open up only to then pull back to avoid the income and counter

"Go home and be a family man"

[Dudley]

We're just playing man, and I'm sure the TS doesn't actually think real fights are like a fighting game (although Virtua Fighter is getting real close). Just that the strategies are similar.

I just found it funny that Dudley's telling us that SF is not real.

In SF, Dudley's my fav character. It's fun to use a boxer (classy one at that) to smash up Ryu/Akuma in the arcades. His move list is pretty complete as a boxer goes. Still haven't figured out how to throw a two-punch while Ryu tries to hug me though

I feel what your saying bro. But it's a totally different feel. I used to and still rock games like SF 3rd strike. But i got into boxing and Capoeira 5 years ago (2 years capoeria 3 years boxing) and it is visually similar but totally different. When your sparring or in a Roda with someone. it's a completely different situation. Fatigue, health (as in how well you take care of yourself), speed (variations) power, feints. all completely change in the context of the situation. games are straight up canned animations, when you spar a guy who know how to throw his hips into a punch instead of just and arm punch to figure out range is completely different. i can't explain it to you if you've never done it. even intimidation plays a huge part in a sparring if you can make the other guy feel your ready for him they approach the situation differently.

Games though they are strategies are they are all canned situation reality is so much more dependent upon you and everything around you. your the controller and how you think and what shape you in and what you know is the game.

i seriously recommend it though 2nd best choice I made in my life, Salsa is the first.

[neiman]

I feel what your saying bro. But it's a totally different feel. I used to and still rock games like SF 3rd strike. But i got into boxing and Capoeira 5 years ago (2 years capoeria 3 years boxing) and it is visually similar but totally different. When your sparring or in a Roda with someone. it's a completely different situation. Fatigue, health (as in how well you take care of yourself), speed (variations) power, feints. all completely change in the context of the situation. games are straight up canned animations, when you spar a guy who know how to throw his hips into a punch instead of just and arm punch to figure out range is completely different. i can't explain it to you if you've never done it. even intimidation plays a huge part in a sparring if you can make the other guy feel your ready for him they approach the situation differently.

Games though they are strategies are they are all canned situation reality is so much more dependent upon you and everything around you. your the controller and how you think and what shape you in and what you know is the game.

i seriously recommend it though 2nd best choice I made in my life, Salsa is the first.

no one here is trying to compare the physical realm of an actual fight to a damn video game. you've completely missed my point. fatigue, health, getting punched in the face have nothing to do with what i'm talking about.

i'm speaking solely on the mental ability to understand any given situation and control your opponent. mayweather does this. what don't you get about that?

[Dudley]

We're just playing man, and I'm sure the TS doesn't actually think real fights are like a fighting game (although Virtua Fighter is getting real close). Just that the strategies are similar.

I just found it funny that Dudley's telling us that SF is not real.

In SF, Dudley's my fav character. It's fun to use a boxer (classy one at that) to smash up Ryu/Akuma in the arcades. His move list is pretty complete as a boxer goes. Still haven't figured out how to throw a two-punch while Ryu tries to hug me though

no one here is trying to compare the physical realm of an actual fight to a damn video game. you've completely missed my point. fatigue, health, getting punched in the face have nothing to do with what i'm talking about.

i'm speaking solely on the mental ability to understand any given situation and control your opponent. mayweather does this. what don't you get about that?

No bro what you don't get is you control yourself to make your opponent do what you want to do that's what your not getting. your opponent is nothing, YOU on the other hand are EVERYTHING. Are you feeling me? Mayweather controls himself to be a certain way to get a certain result that's what your not understanding.

Trust me bro, Take up boxing. As soon as you start getting good at it, you will understand what I'm saying. Games can't emulate it. your playing a trick. you are not a trick. Trust me bro. you'll know when your doing it. I'm not hating I'm telling you the straight facts.

[neiman]

No bro what you don't get is you control yourself to make your opponent do what you want to do that's what your not getting. your opponent is nothing, YOU on the other hand are EVERYTHING. Are you feeling me? Mayweather controls himself to be a certain way to get a certain result that's what your not understanding.

Trust me bro, Take up boxing. As soon as you start getting good at it, you will understand what I'm saying. Games can't emulate it. your playing a trick. you are not a trick. Trust me bro. you'll know when your doing it. I'm not hating I'm telling you the straight facts.

i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying man. everything you just said to me, i already know. i'm not even disagreeing with you. but what i'm also saying is that he has a general understanding and intelligence of many specific situations. he knows what to do and when to do it. how to approach an opponent at many different angles and the best attacks to use if they take his baits. maybe you're not familiar with competing at fighting games but this is very similar. how do you think he adjusts mid fight every single time and his opponents are somewhat fighting different than what they usually do? it's because he's broken them down mentally. if you've ever seriously competed in any fighting game you will realize this same exact concept can be applied.

mayweather has even said this himself.

[Dudley]

i think you're misunderstanding what i'm saying man. everything you just said to me, i already know. i'm not even disagreeing with you. but what i'm also saying is that he has a general understanding and intelligence of many specific situations. he knows what to do and when to do it. how to approach an opponent at many different angles and the best attacks to use if they take his baits. maybe you're not familiar with competing at fighting games but this is very similar. how do you think he adjusts mid fight every single time and his opponents are somewhat fighting different than what they usually do? it's because he's broken them down mentally. if you've ever played in a tournament, this is the same thing.

Ok i'm going to tell you a story. I just sparring with this guy this past weekend, last time we fought this dude has 3 years of boxing experience on me, I have 2. And i was a little nervous, i admit , but i had a gameplan of what i was going to do. We started sparring and the dude hit me hard, Hard hard! like i had a plan i knew what i was going to do, but that **** is out the window. games you don't get that, you see a life bar go down and then you have the next round. I lost for sure.

We just fought recently and i came in with a different attitude, same strategy. and I won. I was setting him up with **** that i knew i could have done the first time but i was running for a month every other day, hard! so i knew my legs where stronger and i could push the pace. i tired him a bit and he started to slow down. and then i started landing some real nice setup shots to the body and overhand right's good jabs high and low. making him think. the strategy is part and parcel, but what made the difference was where i was at, inside. Games will never get you that feeling and i have done both. I played in tournaments when i was younger in Toronto. i know what gaming is like, Boxing in reality is completely different. visually it looks the same i'll give you that you see distance and spacing BUT doing it and knowing what your doing in reality is completely separate from that game experience. you cannot play games to get good at fighting the strategy is not the same as in a real fight! ( and vice versa)

honestly try it bro. you'll learn so much save this post or add me as a friend and when you've been doing it for over a year and you have some sparring to draw upon. The sensation is completely different. that's my suggestion. I respect your opinion and agree with small parts of it but it's different still.

respect bro.

[SplitSecond]

LOL.....just look at EVO and youll see SF is still the dominat fighter out there. Nothing comes close. As for it being button smashing....far from it, zoning, ticks, frames, hit boxes, ect.....far from it, and my cousin whos a tekken 4 freak, played me and i beat him like 3 out of 10. He whipped me, but i had no idea what i was doing. We play SSF2T.....he went 0 and like i dont know, at least a dozen before we stopped against my Geif.

if you beat your cousin just button mashing(thus trhowing only one-two's, normal lows, sht at random) and beat him, well what can i tell you, your not provin sht except that your cousin clearly sucks at tekken

and you obviously love street fighter(avatar, argument) so there is no point of this debate, no one will leave alleviated

[neiman]

Ok i'm going to tell you a story. I just sparring with this guy this past weekend, last time we fought this dude has 3 years of boxing experience on me, I have 2. And i was a little nervous, i admit , but i had a gameplan of what i was going to do. We started sparring and the dude hit me hard, Hard hard! like i had a plan i knew what i was going to do, but that **** is out the window. games you don't get that, you see a life bar go down and then you have the next round. I lost for sure.

We just fought recently and i came in with a different attitude, same strategy. and I won. I was setting him up with **** that i knew i could have done the first time but i was running for a month every other day, hard! so i knew my legs where stronger and i could push the pace. i tired him a bit and he started to slow down. and then i started landing some real nice setup shots to the body and overhand right's good jabs high and low. making him think. the strategy is part and parcel, but what made the difference was where i was at, inside. Games will never get you that feeling and i have done both. I played in tournaments when i was younger in Toronto. i know what gaming is like, Boxing in reality is completely different. visually it looks the same i'll give you that you see distance and spacing BUT doing it and knowing what your doing in reality is completely separate from that game experience. you cannot play games to get good at fighting the strategy is not the same as in a real fight! ( and vice versa)

honestly try it bro. you'll learn so much save this post or add me as a friend and when you've been doing it for over a year and you have some sparring to draw upon. The sensation is completely different. that's my suggestion. I respect your opinion and agree with small parts of it but it's different still.

respect bro.

maybe you're just misunderstanding me. i don't want to go on forever repeating myself. i never said that and that's not what i'm trying to prove. this has nothing to do with you or any fights you've been in. or learning how to fight in real life from a video game. i'm simply saying that mayweather mentally is on another level than many of his opponents and understands many situations more so than you or I. This type of thought can be compared to high level competitive play. That's it. That's all I'm trying to get across.

[Dudley]

maybe you're just misunderstanding me. i don't want to go on forever repeating myself. i never said that and that's not what i'm trying to prove. this has nothing to do with you or any fights you've been in. or learning how to fight in real life from a video game. i'm simply saying that mayweather mentally is on another level than many of his opponents and understands many situations more so than you or I. This type of thought can be compared to high level competitive play. That's it. That's all I'm trying to get across.

OK i get you. but the simple truth is, even at a high level everyone has a plan until they get hit. videogames cannot simulate that, never. You don't feel what the character feels. You have no attachment.