**Official** Was The KO A Cheap Shot Thread (POLL)

[thatnickuh]

first off, im not a hater

i understand what you're saying completely but idiots like you cannot seem to have a reason as to why floyd walked to victor with his hands down also...and then 2 pieced him after a quick word

watch the video and then tell me...WHY would floyd do that??

I watched the fight live and I've seen several replays, but I don't agree with your assessment. You're implying that Mayweather fooled Ortiz into thinking that he was going to embrace him only to sucker punch him, and I completely disagree with that. What I saw was Mayweather acknowledge at least 2 of Ortiz's attempt to apologize for the intentional headbutt. What I saw was Ortiz inexplicably try to embrace Mayweather for a 3rd-4th time after the ref had already resumed the fight. What I saw was Ortiz take the left hand and still not put his hands up to fight. What I saw was Ortiz looking like he could have gotten up. What I saw was Ortiz not really wanting to fight. What I saw was Ortiz broken down mentally and partly physically(his eye was almost closed) by the 4th round. What I see is you trying to blame Mayweather for something that he doesn't deserve blame for.

watch the video and then tell me...WHY would floyd do that??surely it was because he knew victor was not expecting it...and that's what makes it a sucker punch

You're talking nonsense. How do you suppose that Mayweather "knew" that Ortiz wouldn't be expecting to be hit by punches during a boxing match? Why do you keep trying to make Ortiz not knowing that he should protect himself at all times Mayweather's responsibilty? Once the ref had resumed the fight, there was no excuse for Ortiz to not be expecting punches or to have his defense down. Again, why is that so difficult to understand or admit?

[Yogi Bear]

I watched the fight live and I've seen several replays, but I don't agree with your assessment. You're implying that Mayweather fooled Ortiz into thinking that he was going to embrace him only to sucker punch him, and I completely disagree with that. What I saw was Mayweather acknowledge at least 2 of Ortiz's attempt to apologize for the intentional headbutt. What I saw was Ortiz inexplicably try to embrace Mayweather for a 3rd-4th time after the ref had already resumed the fight. What I saw was Ortiz take the left hand and still not put his hands up to fight. What I saw was Ortiz looking like he could have gotten up. What I saw was Ortiz not really wanting to fight. What I saw was Ortiz broken down mentally and partly physically(his eye was almost closed) by the 4th round. What I see is you trying to blame Mayweather for something that he doesn't deserve blame for.

You're talking nonsense. How do you suppose that Mayweather "knew" that Ortiz wouldn't be expecting to be hit by punches during a boxing match? Why do you keep trying to make Ortiz not knowing that he should protect himself at all times Mayweather's responsibilty? Once the ref had resumed the fight, there was no excuse for Ortiz to not be expecting punches or to have his defense down. Again, why is that so difficult to understand or admit?

floyd was partly responsible for walking over to victor with his hands down....thats my point, i didn't expect floyd to throw punches and im guessing alot of people agree

theres usually an understanding of both fighters that the fights back on when one or the other raises both arms to their chins and steps forward to continue...neither did this and the reason i blame floyd more is because both had their hands down as they walked to each other one final time...only floyd decided at the last second to start the assault

victor DID apologize too much..i agree but i think he was more trying to prove at that point that he was genuinely sorry for the headbutt than engaging in a physical contest but floyd took this opportunity to take a shot and it was disgusting to watch

floyd acknowledged that victors 3rd or 4th apology by walking over with his hands down himself..and thats my only problem...im not a floyd mayweather hater, im not a *******, im a fan of boxing and thats my opinion, whether we agree or not i think

and as for cortez...his actions were shocking, he didn't even know what was going on which is why he looked spooked when he seen ortiz falling down cause he was too busy looking outside the ring. it took him a second to realise what happened and then he started the 10 count

[TheKza]

Remember when Barerra was trying all that lowblow punching while breaking **** against Morales?
Morales didn't give a **** he just kept fighting.

The problem is Ortiz wanted to get ktfo because he knew that he went over his head with the headbutt.

Yeah but we can't judge Mayweather in comparison to that of the great warrior. Morales is cut from a different cloth.

[Unknown Champ]

Yeah but we can't judge Mayweather in comparison to that of the great warrior. Morales is cut from a different cloth.

I'm sorry but I picked morales to beat this kid due to his experience first off. But Lets get this straight Morales and Mayweather should not even be in the same sentence, different level. Meaning Mayweather is at a higher level then dude. A warrior, cus you get hit all the time? Poor defense is what I call that and I like Erik.

[tangalog2200]

floyd was partly responsible for walking over to victor with his hands down....thats my point, i didn't expect floyd to throw punches and im guessing alot of people agree

theres usually an understanding of both fighters that the fights back on when one or the other raises both arms to their chins and steps forward to continue...neither did this and the reason i blame floyd more is because both had their hands down as they walked to each other one final time...only floyd decided at the last second to start the assault

victor DID apologize too much..i agree but i think he was more trying to prove at that point that he was genuinely sorry for the headbutt than engaging in a physical contest but floyd took this opportunity to take a shot and it was disgusting to watch

floyd acknowledged that victors 3rd or 4th apology by walking over with his hands down himself..and thats my only problem...im not a floyd mayweather hater, im not a *******, im a fan of boxing and thats my opinion, whether we agree or not i think

and as for cortez...his actions were shocking, he didn't even know what was going on which is why he looked spooked when he seen ortiz falling down cause he was too busy looking outside the ring. it took him a second to realise what happened and then he started the 10 count

and as for cortez...his actions were shocking, he didn't even know what was going on which is why he looked spooked when he seen ortiz falling down cause he was too busy looking outside the ring. it took him a second to realise what happened and then he started the 10 count

cortez looking elsewhere supports vic's assertion that cortez indeed called for a break..

otherwise, a ref when he instructed the fighters to continue the fight after a break must not take his eyes off both fighters...

what happened last night on floyd vs vic was a disgrace to boxing...

good that erik was part of the undercard

[Battle*Hardened]

I watched the fight live and I've seen several replays, but I don't agree with your assessment. You're implying that Mayweather fooled Ortiz into thinking that he was going to embrace him only to sucker punch him, and I completely disagree with that. What I saw was Mayweather acknowledge at least 2 of Ortiz's attempt to apologize for the intentional headbutt. What I saw was Ortiz inexplicably try to embrace Mayweather for a 3rd-4th time after the ref had already resumed the fight. What I saw was Ortiz take the left hand and still not put his hands up to fight. What I saw was Ortiz looking like he could have gotten up. What I saw was Ortiz not really wanting to fight. What I saw was Ortiz broken down mentally and partly physically(his eye was almost closed) by the 4th round. What I see is you trying to blame Mayweather for something that he doesn't deserve blame for.

You're talking nonsense. How do you suppose that Mayweather "knew" that Ortiz wouldn't be expecting to be hit by punches during a boxing match? Why do you keep trying to make Ortiz not knowing that he should protect himself at all times Mayweather's responsibilty? Once the ref had resumed the fight, there was no excuse for Ortiz to not be expecting punches or to have his defense down. Again, why is that so difficult to understand or admit?

He did fool him, that's why it was a cheap shot.

[thatnickuh]

floyd was partly responsible for walking over to victor with his hands down....thats my point, i didn't expect floyd to throw punches and im guessing alot of people agree

Your point is invalid. Mayweather is not responsible for Ortiz not being ready to fight after the ref resumed the bout, I don't care how you try to spin it. Ortiz should have been ready to fight and defend himself once the ref resumed the bout, period.

theres usually an understanding of both fighters that the fights back on when one or the other raises both arms to their chins and steps forward to continue...neither did this and the reason i blame floyd more is because both had their hands down as they walked to each other one final time...only floyd decided at the last second to start the assault

More BS. Again, once the ref resumes the fight then the fight is on. Period. You aren't suppose to look to your opponent for instructions on when and when not to fight, you look and listen to the ref. You're talking out your anus.

victor DID apologize too much..i agree but i think he was more trying to prove at that point that he was genuinely sorry for the headbutt than engaging in a physical contest but floyd took this opportunity to take a shot and it was disgusting to watch

It was digsuting for you to watch because obviously you have something against Mayweather. As a neutral fight fan, it was disuting for me to watch Ortiz intentionally headbutt his opponent. It was disgusting for me to watch Ortiz continue to try and embrace Mayweather over and over even after the ref resumed the fight. It was disgusting for me to watch Ortiz not get up when it looked as if he could have. It's disgusting for me to watch and read this garbage that you're posting.

floyd acknowledged that victors 3rd or 4th apology by walking over with his hands down himself..and thats my only problem...im not a floyd mayweather hater, im not a *******, im a fan of boxing and thats my opinion, whether we agree or not i think

This is your interpretation of what happened and its clear that you are bias. You can deny it but it doesn't change the reality. Mayweather wanted to fight and for whatever reason Ortiz didn't, that's not Mayweather's fault.

and as for cortez...his actions were shocking, he didn't even know what was going on which is why he looked spooked when he seen ortiz falling down cause he was too busy looking outside the ring. it took him a second to realise what happened and then he started the 10 count

This has nothing to do with Ortiz knowing that Cortez had resumed the fight. You people want to do everything but blame Ortiz for his mistakes and credit Mayweather for the victory that he earned, then you have the nerve to dispute being biased. Hilarious.

[thatnickuh]

He did fool him, that's why it was a cheap shot.

I wasn't a cheap shot, youre just not smart enough to understand the rules of boxing.

[AssasinKing]

Was it justified after receiving a flying head butt? = Yes

EXACTLY this

Nail on the head.

[Battle*Hardened]

I wasn't a cheap shot, youre just not smart enough to understand the rules of boxing.

Rules? The punch was legal.

I didn't know faking an apology acceptance then punching was a rule?