Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Mayweather a Poor Sport, But Shot Was Legal

[mdizzle9000]

keep rooting for these mexicans and you'll stay disappointed. mayweather>>>all

[Brother Jay]

It won't be any different with Pacquiao. If that coward ever finds the courage to actually get in the ring with Floyd, his fans will come up with 1,000 reasons why Floyd's win isn't what it should have been. And now that Ortiz has been KO'd, as we speak Freddie Roach is reevaluating whether he wants the keystone of his career to risk fighting a guy who came in at 150lbs and just KO'd a guy who just came in as a SMW at 164lbs.

Pacquiao won't fight guys at 147 let alone at 164lbs.

But I can GUARANTEE that most people here won't acknowledge that winning despite that kind of weight disparity in of itself is a huge accomplishment. Casual fans think that weight doesn't make a difference unless you're Manny Pacquiao playing the "too small" card and making his opponents dehydrate down 2 extra pounds .. despite Pacquiao being ONLY 2" shorter than both Floyd and Shane Mosley.

The saddest part about all this is that now that Ortiz has been defeated and dethroned, Pacquiao will seek a fight with him. BUT!!!! Keep an eye on what weight Ortiz is stipulated to come in at. I can guarantee that it won't be 164lbs!!!

Ortiz will be asked to come in at 147-150lbs. If Pacquiao is even half the fighter that Mayweather is, he needs to stop fighting just the names and start fighting the same conditions that Mayweather faces.

Floyd fighting DLH at 170lbs+ and Pacquiao fighting DLH at 145lbs are hardly the same thing, but you can't tell that to *******s!

If Pacquiao really thinks that he can do what Mayweather does, let's see him do it without catchweights!!! I'll pay to see Pacquiao fight Ortiz if Ortiz is allowed to come in at 164lbs! We all know that it will never happen because Pacquiao will continue to use the crutch of being 2" shorter than Floyd, and that's why he has HAD to use catchweights and rehydration clauses.

Watch for *******s and casual fans alike to start with the "but Pac is so small" and "give the little guy a break" bull****.

Champions need no extra measure. They come as they are and slay all who manage to make it to the top to face them.

Pacquiao stopped doing that YEARS ago. Floyd continues to face the best .. even those who come in 2 divisions heavier than himself. Who else outside of HW has done that other than Roy Jones????

Now that's a real champion.

[Sugar Q]

This is complete and utter bull****.

Its not Mayweather's job or obligation to accommodate boxers who are in over their head and resort to sparring niceties as a form of getting him to slow down on a beating.

Why in some minds did Mayweather have to stand their continuing to make out with Ortiz in the middle of a championship boxing match?

Next, Ortiz would have started asking for advice on how to do better during the fight, and Mayweather naysayers would have complained that Floyd should have at least offered some advice to the young lion.

No, its PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES for a reason. A boxing match is not the place for apologies or ceremonial gestures. Ortiz could have done all that after the fight. Ortiz should have not apologized for doing what he had to do to win. People get headbutted all the time. People get low blowed all the time. You don't see the offender running over to kowtow to the offended DURING the match. Maybe a glove touch at best but this new fad of touching gloves like a match where the goal is to hurt the other man is ridiculous. It totally takes the steam out of any match because you can't believe that the fighters have bad intentions if they are busy playing patty cake and hugging each other.

Its a sign of desperation, and once fighters begin that sparring **** in matches where the fans paid for tickets and PPV's to see two men leave it all in the ring the fans have a strong case for feeling cheated.

Sportsmanship does not mean that boxers are supposed to "hug it out" in the 4th round of a fight where both men claimed that they were going to beat each other unconscious. Sportsmanship in boxing has to do with not headbutting or throwing low blows INTENTIONALLY. Sportsmanship in boxing has to do with not loading your gloves or taking illegal PEDs.

In fact, it should become a new rule that boxers who attempt to continuously touch gloves can have a point deducted .. simply because they are putting themselves in a vulnerable position and then later complaining when their opponent doesn't see continuous glove touching or hugging as necessary.

How many times did Gatti try complaining to the ref during Gatti/Ward I?

How many times did Mosley try to touch 'em up with Margarito?

How many times did Ortiz try to "hug it out" with Berto?

Its when boxers realize that they are out of their league that the DEMOTE THEMSELVES to sparring partners against Floyd. They know that they are having trouble executing their gameplan, and when that happens 1 of 3 things happen:

1 - they complain to the ref as if a time out has been called

2 - they try to touch gloves every time an exchange happens

3 - they foul to stall for time to figure things out or turn the tide

Last night, Ortiz pulled a #3 and then wouldn't let it go even after Floyd touched gloves with him. Ortiz had to clearly see that after he hugged & kissed Floyd that Floyd nodded, put his gloves up, flinched as if he thought Ortiz was going to throw something and then let his own hands go.

There is no fault there in terms of rules or sportsmanship. All the so-called controversy is coming from unhappy fans of other fighters who wanted to see more from Ortiz.

Floyd handled Ortiz amazingly and he handled Merchant beautifully.

Great night of fights.

The question everybody is left thinking is "Who is next for Floyd?"

People are already asking that. They want to know what's next for boxing's MVP.

Hate it or love it ... that's exactly what Mayweather is.

Great post my dude. Very well said.

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

Its boxing you idiot this aint no respect **** till the fight is over pac and dont talk till you take the test and using catchweights against a champ is not good sportsmenship either

[1prodz]

Ortiz knew he had ****ed up. That's why he tried to kiss Floyd and give him a hug. Ortiz got what he had coming to him. What if he had opened a huge cut on Floyd with that headbutt bull****?? I really don't know what all the fuss is about....Floyd was going to knock his a** out in seven or eight anyway. He was walking Ortiz down and clipping him with lead right hands. Ortiz tried to headbutt Floyd because Floyd was taking it to him and he panicked. We already know from the Maidana fight that Ortiz is immature. Beating Berto didn't change that and his attempted headbutt proves it.

What's up with you all 3 of you maynever fans you guys got to be some of the ******est fans around. How do you know that Floyd would have stopped Ortiz in 7 or 8?????? how do you know he would beat Margarito and Pacman etc etc etc??? how do you know that pacman is on ped's. You guys talk so much uneducated **** to back up your coward it's unbelievable. And wasn't maynever suppose to be winning the fight anyway wasn't he a 6-1 betting favorite. Wake up maynever fans your boy ugly boy maynever is a P****.

[amonb]

It won't be any different with Pacquiao. If that coward ever finds the courage to actually get in the ring with Floyd, his fans will come up with 1,000 reasons why Floyd's win isn't what it should have been. And now that Ortiz has been KO'd, as we speak Freddie Roach is reevaluating whether he wants the keystone of his career to risk fighting a guy who came in at 150lbs and just KO'd a guy who just came in as a SMW at 164lbs.

Pacquiao won't fight guys at 147 let alone at 164lbs.

But I can GUARANTEE that most people here won't acknowledge that winning despite that kind of weight disparity in of itself is a huge accomplishment. Casual fans think that weight doesn't make a difference unless you're Manny Pacquiao playing the "too small" card and making his opponents dehydrate down 2 extra pounds .. despite Pacquiao being ONLY 2" shorter than both Floyd and Shane Mosley.

The saddest part about all this is that now that Ortiz has been defeated and dethroned, Pacquiao will seek a fight with him. BUT!!!! Keep an eye on what weight Ortiz is stipulated to come in at. I can guarantee that it won't be 164lbs!!!

Ortiz will be asked to come in at 147-150lbs. If Pacquiao is even half the fighter that Mayweather is, he needs to stop fighting just the names and start fighting the same conditions that Mayweather faces.

Floyd fighting DLH at 170lbs+ and Pacquiao fighting DLH at 145lbs are hardly the same thing, but you can't tell that to *******s!

If Pacquiao really thinks that he can do what Mayweather does, let's see him do it without catchweights!!! I'll pay to see Pacquiao fight Ortiz if Ortiz is allowed to come in at 164lbs! We all know that it will never happen because Pacquiao will continue to use the crutch of being 2" shorter than Floyd, and that's why he has HAD to use catchweights and rehydration clauses.

Watch for *******s and casual fans alike to start with the "but Pac is so small" and "give the little guy a break" bull****.

Champions need no extra measure. They come as they are and slay all who manage to make it to the top to face them.

Pacquiao stopped doing that YEARS ago. Floyd continues to face the best .. even those who come in 2 divisions heavier than himself. Who else outside of HW has done that other than Roy Jones????

Now that's a real champion.

Pacquaio's gonna beat some humility in floyd and as a floyd ball tickler, I hope you get some too!!!!

[Sugar Q]

No RJ is cool and so is George. Merchant is a journalist, he's going to ask questions that are sometimes controversial. He's not there to get on his knees when he sees something. The entire crowd was booing, c'mon. You think the entire crowd was racist too? Merchant reacts to things that he feels aren't logical, because that is how he operates. Fighters (some) tend to emote and not offer logical explanations, so he takes those explanations apart and sometimes it comes off as rude. But this is the hurt business right, and you get your feelings hurt by an old man?

Merchant reacts negatively, sarcastically and more agressively with African American fighters. A good journalist would badger Manny on his unwillingness to submit to testing that we subject kids in the Olympics to.

[drudolphreese]

the ref said lets go. victor wanted to hug after HE BLATANTLY FOULED FLOYD. he hugged him twice and kissed him. i guess if vicor wanted to hug the rest of the fight floyd souldnt have hit him all night. floyd did nothing wrong. THE REF SAID LETS GO. PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES.

[Sugar Q]

Pacquaio's gonna beat some humility in floyd and as a floyd ball tickler, I hope you get some too!!!!

I wish he believed that as much as you do. I dare Manny to sign that contract.

[BoCoMo]

What's up with you all 3 of you maynever fans you guys got to be some of the ******est fans around. How do you know that Floyd would have stopped Ortiz in 7 or 8?????? how do you know he would beat Margarito and Pacman etc etc etc??? how do you know that pacman is on ped's. You guys talk so much uneducated **** to back up your coward it's unbelievable. And wasn't maynever suppose to be winning the fight anyway wasn't he a 6-1 betting favorite. Wake up maynever fans your boy ugly boy maynever is a P****.

Do you have any facts you'd like to share or are you going to continue with your best Ortiz imitation and continue with this immature bull****? Come with facts or interesting conversation...leave the name calling for your fantasy football league. Now...why do you disagree with my point that Ortiz was going to get knocked out in the seventh or eighth round?