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  • any craic lad?
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    #31
    Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo.
    There's the key difference, Mayweather is too smart to be trying to halt and apologize when the time hasn't stopped or the ref didn't split them up.

    It was a learning experience for Ortiz, and I'm sure now he knows, and will approach in the ring scuffles differently, instead trying to be their friends during the fight.

    Same thing happened to Mosley, Mosley kept trying to talk to Mayweather until Mayweather shut his ass up with a One-Two...it was LEGAL, and Mosley was in the wrong, even tho it looked like a cheap shot to most.
    Hopefully he will but still man to me Floyd engaging in Victors apology whatever hug thing then catching him off guard too me personally is a sneaky shot but Vic had his own moments off madness too but anyway your a good poster and your being unbiased in your post unlike a lot of threads ive being reading today

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    • Phanekim
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      #32
      the problem is with the video is that everyone was perfectly legal. its the same like floyd using his shoulder to parry. that is perfectly legal. bradley and many others fight like this. the only problem is ortiz's last headbutt was clearly intentional and he was penalized for that. however putting your head in the guys chest is normal boxing.

      the fake apology punch is a whole nother issue.

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        #33
        Originally posted by sweetpea87
        If they tables were turned all the people that are defending Floyd for that move would be screaming that Ortiz sucker punched him and it was bull****. It might have been a "legal" shot but it was still a cheap and dirty shot on Floyd's part.
        I'm gonna **** your ********.

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        • ..WaRSpencE..
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          #34
          Originally posted by any craic lad?
          Hopefully he will but still man to me Floyd engaging in Victors apology whatever hug thing then catching him off guard too me personally is a sneaky shot but Vic had his own moments off madness too but anyway your a good poster and your being unbiased in your post unlike a lot of threads ive being reading today
          Thanks man, and I agree those punches weren't necessary, but it's very hard to sympathize for Ortiz who kept rushing with his head then blatantly jumped and cracked him like a ram!..and you're a very solid poster around here, keep it up and try to weed out the biased nuthuggers.

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          • joesaiditstrue
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            #35
            Originally posted by MindHeist
            Listen...

            Mayweather's ability to fight was in NO WAY compromised by the actions of Ortiz.

            If he had been dazed by the headbutt or even got cut then I'd honestly support what Floyd did 100% because the playing field is no longer level.

            But neither of the above happened so his reaction was unjustified and unnecessary.

            He took what could have been an amazing fight away from the fans.

            You know, the people who gave him $25,000,000+ last night.

            Them.
            he was cut in two places, on the left side of his inner lip (huge cut), and on the outside of his lip in the center.

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              #36
              Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
              Don't you see that even if that's true, then that makes the reverse of the argument true also? What you said was "yeah, mayweather fans are biased nuthuggers for defending him, but you guys would be biased nuthuggers too if it was your fighter doing the cheat shot"

              Now, if your argument is "mayweather fans are unbiased" then you would be arguing that "Ortiz fans would also be unbiased" in the reverse situation...which I doubt because you are criticizing Ortiz fans...

              You just called yourself biased.
              No, you're not even reading what he posted. He said if Ortiz had been the one who knocked out a head-butting Floyd Mayweather, the Floyd Haters would be saying "He should've protected himself!!! Fair KO!! ORTIZ P4P!!!!!"

              Don't get it twisted bro, keep it real

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                #37
                Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo.
                Say everything last night from the foul to the KO was reversed, and Mayweather, out of frustration, blatantly cracks a cut open on Ortiz' lip with a HEADBUTT, and as Mayweather kept trying to excuse his action with hugs and kisses.

                If Ortiz would've caught his ass in the same fashion, everyone (haters) would be satisfied, and would feel that he got was he was due for fouling in such manner. Stop being so ****in biased and a hater.

                What Mayweather did was LEGAL, what Ortiz did was PATHETIC, and he tried to justify it in the post-fight interview saying that him being pushed back made it look intentional. He kept denying that he lost his cool and attacked Mayweather with a headbutt, and you still want to sympathize for this guy???..
                Green mother******* K for this! These were my EXACT sentiments when I was talking with my guests at my house right after the KO!

                Facebook users and casual fans should look at this OBJECTIVELY.

                A lot of people are upset simply because Mayweather won again. They don't care about "Mayweather suckerpunched Ortiz", etc, etc.

                HAD IT BEEN MAYWEATHER headbutting Ortiz and then Ortiz suckerpunching and knocking Mayweather out, EVERYBODY (and when I say everybody, I mean Mexican fanboys, and those who always support Mayweather's opponents) would be going ape**** and not be giving a **** about whether it was unsportsmanlike or not. They'd be giddy with glee just to see Mayweather sprawling on the canvas.

                YOU HAVE GOT TO BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT THIS...

                What Mayweather did was unsportsmanlike BUT he was perfectly within his rights of punching...
                Last edited by TintaBoricua; 09-18-2011, 11:58 AM.

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                • ..WaRSpencE..
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                  No, you're not even reading what he posted. He said if Ortiz had been the one who knocked out a head-butting Floyd Mayweather, the Floyd Haters would be saying "He should've protected himself!!! Fair KO!! ORTIZ P4P!!!!!"

                  Don't get it twisted bro, keep it real
                  Thank you, I was gonna reply, but figured he made himself look dumb enough as it is by posting that dumb ****.

                  Regardless if it would have been Ortiz or Mayweather landing those shots leading to a KO it was FAIR. Period.

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                    #39
                    Are all these people posting pro-Ortiz the same person trying to be funny? Seriously who can ever contemplate such an impossible situation like this: Floyd frustrated in the ring with Ortiz and headbutting....LMAO
                    THAT would never happen in the first place, and if it even came close to happening Mayweather has the cool and right mindset to push through it.
                    Haters of the true P4P go rewatch Floyd vs DLH AGAIN because that's the ONLY time Floyd's victory has ever been questioned. Unless you are a ******* then for some reason some of you claim Castillo got the better of him lol
                    42-0 something Manny could never do
                    Last edited by LoadedWraps; 09-18-2011, 12:01 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TintaBoricua
                      Green mother******* K for this! These were my EXACT sentiments when I was talking with my guests at my house right after the KO!

                      Facebook users and casual fans should look at this OBJECTIVELY.

                      A lot of people are upset simply because Mayweather won again. They don't care about "Mayweather suckerpunched Ortiz", etc, etc.

                      HAD IT BEEN MAYWEATHER headbutting Ortiz and then Ortiz suckerpunching and knocking Mayweather out, EVERYBODY (and when I say everybody, I mean Mexican fanboys, and those who always support Mayweather's opponents) would be going ape**** and not be giving a **** about whether it was unsportsmanlike or not. They'd be giddy with glee just to see Mayweather sprawling on the canvas.

                      YOU HAVE GOT TO BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT THIS...

                      What Mayweather did was unsportsmanlike BUT he was perfectly within his rights of punching...
                      Sportsmanship does not win fights, why do you people constantly hammer him for "sportsmanship" when once you accept the fact that the combo was legal it is completely irrelevant?

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