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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #51
    Originally posted by cmartez
    You're a funny guy but ****** nonetheless! You see rookie, i'm gonna call you on your bull****. First Floyd NEVER & I repeat NEVER asked for Olympic Testing.. thats a FACT. Why? Because he's not in the Olympics anymore, hes a boxer. Second, what he asked for is Olympic 'style' random blood and urine testing for himself and his opponent conducted through USADA..thats another FACT. Another fact is, he has taken random blood & urine testing. 1st during the Mosley fight and currently while training for the Ortiz fight. Can you understand those basic facts rookie?? You seem to think random blood & urine testing means Olympic Testing?! They are of course two totally different things. One is for an Olympic Athlete and one is an extra testing measure requested by a boxer negotiating a boxing contract. Starting to sink in?? I fortunately only focus on the facts! Who cares about he say she say ****?? The facts are what they are!
    So Olympic style, is just the phony version.

    We already knew that.

    Real Olympic testing,

    is year round, in and out of competition.

    Floyd does not do random testing in any way, shape or form.


    He does "Floyd testing", which is knowing the months you are going to get poked with the needles.

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    • rayb112
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      #52
      Originally posted by bayareamike
      A red flag to me is that pro boxer is trying to discredit another's accomplishments on pure speculation and accusation with no proof out of jealousy(it's obvious Floyd is/was jealous of manny with fighter of the decade and such, p4p #1). I personally think he saw manny as competition not only as an opponent but as a person that can take away a lot of floyds revenue when manny built up his cash cow status. Red flag to me is someone retiring when there's genuine top grade opponents but rather retire rather than making millions after beating de la Hoya and being a cash cow and letting the top guys fight eachother while you watch on the sideline and come back after those top guys X eachother out and to fight a blown up light weight who's never fought at that weight, as well as not living up to his contract agreement(it's in the contract, honor it.. Especially fighting someone moving up two weight classes and you still come in 2lbs over the CONTRACTED weight).

      Manny's cash cow status....lol...boy u better do some research...floyd doubling what manny is getting

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      • carts
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        #53
        Originally posted by rayb112
        Manny's cash cow status....lol...boy u better do some research...floyd doubling what manny is getting
        ur an idiot u dont clearly know what cash cow means.. it doesnt mean u have to sell more ppv's to any particular boxer but selling decent numbers every time you fight.. now u can STFU!

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        • rayb112
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          #54
          Originally posted by bayareamike
          Let's say you're black and because you're black I suspect you of stealing in my mom and pops store. I didn't see you take a damn thing but I just have a feeling you stole something and I flat out accuse you of it, mind you, you didn't take ****. Are you gonna drop your pants and let me see If you stole something? You know what happens if I made you do that and you have nothing?

          You say how he reacted to taking a test. This is what you *****s don't understand, its the principle of it not the test itself. Manny didn't wanna get pushed around by Floyd with this testing bull****. Compared to manny, who the **** is Floyd mayweather? Pacquiao isn't inferior to Floyd and vice versa so why give in to some crybaby just cause he is having a b*tch fit? Did manny not compromise? Even if it was 7 days testing(I'll give you *****s the benefit of 7 and not 0 that manny agreed upon), what Can you do in 7 days
          For peds to help you 7 days before a fight? You can't take any peds 7days before a fight and benefit from it so why did Floyd switch from 14 to 0 days when manny agreed to the first 14 day Floyd wanted, or 7 for that matter(even though he's said to agreed to 0 days and he could have agreed to it before the Ortiz fight for all we know).

          You said declining a drug test in drug era. First off, is it mannys fault for all the peds abuse in boxing or other sports the last decade or more? He didn't decline a drug TEST, its not just ONE test, he simply wanted to compromise. It's extra testing he doesn't need to go through and if manny, you, me or anyone else accomplishes anything by skill, will, hard work And determination then I'm not letting some dude say I cheated my way there and I'm not letting him push me around either. fcuk that noise. But I guess you lack the brain power to understand how a person would feel like he doesn't owe Floyd nothing.

          And what I said bout Marquez, you replied with "WOW". About the contracted weight you didn't say nothing just wow. Wow what? Oh, you can't really disagree with the Marquez thing though huh. Wow what?
          worst analogy I have ever heard...I dont even no where to start...first this is SPORTS...not the neighborhood liquor store...second in this day and age were HOF athletes have been caught cheating...for someone to request additional testing that he will do himself is not in anyway outrages...third if someone accuses you of doing something you didnt do in the realm of occupation...an innocent person doesnt respond like manny did...Real Talk!

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          • cmartez
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            #55
            Originally posted by Ea$y Money
            So Olympic style, is just the phony version.

            We already knew that.

            Real Olympic testing,

            is year round, in and out of competition.

            Floyd does not do random testing in any way, shape or form.


            He does "Floyd testing", which is knowing the months you are going to get poked with the needles.
            No, no buddy. I'm not a child and your silly antics and quotes wont work on me. The facts are: Floyd had the right to ask for whatever test he wanted to. Who cares why he asked for it, it was a reasonable request that was not an issue at the beginning of the first negotiation. A FACT on record, coming out of Freddie Roach's own mouth. It only became an issue when...amazingly Pac refused to accept it! Pac of course, has the right to refuse any extra testing. I mean he never fail any tests before so why should he have to take any extra tests now? Hmmm maybe it because its the biggest fight in boxing history!! Look we can speculate all day long but the facts are in stone and recorded for the world to see. Pac got a 50% money split even though Floyd is the PROVEN higher seller. If i'm not mistaken Pac also got glove and ring size. Floyd even agreed to an unheard of $10,000,000 per pound weight penalty. An UNHEARD of weight penalty!! But amazingly Floyd agreed.. Why would he agree to such and ridiculous contract stipulation?? Oh, because he never failed to make weight for sanctioned official weight class. So of course he would agree. Sadly Pac refuses to agree to a test that they both who have to take. Why/? The world is asking that same question. I mean really, you and your minions can continue to hate and lie but that will not erase the dilemma that Pac is facing:How in the world can he deny a $40,000,000 pay day just because of a little random blood and urine testing.
            Last edited by cmartez; 09-10-2011, 06:52 PM.

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            • CasualBoxingFan
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              #56
              Originally posted by bayareamike
              A red flag to me is that pro boxer is trying to discredit another's accomplishments on pure speculation and accusation with no proof out of jealousy(it's obvious Floyd is/was jealous of manny with fighter of the decade and such, p4p #1). I personally think he saw manny as competition not only as an opponent but as a person that can take away a lot of floyds revenue when manny built up his cash cow status. Red flag to me is someone retiring when there's genuine top grade opponents but rather retire rather than making millions after beating de la Hoya and being a cash cow and letting the top guys fight eachother while you watch on the sideline and come back after those top guys X eachother out and to fight a blown up light weight who's never fought at that weight, as well as not living up to his contract agreement(it's in the contract, honor it.. Especially fighting someone moving up two weight classes and you still come in 2lbs over the CONTRACTED weight).
              They're both *******.

              Many Pacquiao is on the juice.

              and Mayweather has been ducking.

              The only time Pacquiao looses is when they blood test him for peds, look at the first Morales fight. You better bet that taking a blood test "weakens" his ass.

              They're both shady.

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              • Clint650
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                #57
                where's the common sense?

                facts.
                1. fighter accuses fighter of possibly taking PED's...demands olympic style drug testing for fight with fighter.
                2. accused fighter (Pacquiao) says making his own rules is a way of saying he's scared and he is looking for a way out of the fight.
                3. when asks about testing, Pac stated he has never failed a test in the past.
                4. Team Pac has issues with random blood testing, and is concerned about Manny's well being if tests disrupt training.
                5. blood tests were part of the reason Manny lost to Morales, because it made him feel weak.
                6. Pac files a defamation complaint against the Mayweathers through his lawyer.
                7. Clottey fight is signed.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Betdwn
                  By asking Pacquiao to take Olympic style drug testing, Floyd genuinely believes that Pacquiao is using PEDs and therefore not able to beat all the oponents he did if he were natural.

                  If this is true Floyd does have questions on whether or not he can beat Pacquiao, becuuse otherwise he would just fight Pacquiao with or without the tests.

                  What do you all think??
                  BINGO...and it's COMMON ****ING SENSE!

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                  • Toxic
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                    #59
                    If PBF is really true with his word that he wanted to fight PAC

                    He'll make a contract with his signature and give it to Bob Arum.

                    He said OSDT is the only the hindrance then put it into contract and sign it with his OSDT demands.

                    If Pac will not sign it then Pac is ducking him because of OSDT

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                    • Toyman
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                      #60
                      They're both *******.

                      Many Pacquiao is on the juice.

                      and Mayweather has been ducking.

                      The only time Pacquiao looses is when they blood test him for peds, look at the first Morales fight. You better bet that taking a blood test "weakens" his ass.

                      They're both shady.
                      there was no blood testing for peds on that fight lol..what happened is that they lost mannys blood sample and so they had to test him the day before the fight again (which they did not do to morales) - manny did not even know about it until the last day and they tested him (negative btw lol). Whether or not you buy his excuse is up to you, but manny claims that this blood test made him feel weaker and hindered his performance against morales (and he did not just claim this recently, he claimed way before people even speculated a fight between him and mayweather)

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