Mayweather - It is obvious but I will ask anyway.

[Betdwn]

By asking Pacquiao to take Olympic style drug testing, Floyd genuinely believes that Pacquiao is using PEDs and therefore not able to beat all the opponents he did if he were natural.

If this is true Floyd does have questions on whether or not he can beat Pacquiao, because otherwise he would just fight Pacquiao with or without the tests.

What do you all think??

[Spit Venom]

money believes he can beat heavyweights when you are high

[Ray*]

He recently said if he was beating HW what would people think, If that doesnt imply him thinking Pac is a cheater then i dont know anymore.

[Kenny MF Powers]

You mean floyd suspects pac may be on something and wants to make sure hes not when they fight. Cant really speculate on why. Maybe he has info that we dont. Maybe its not his intention to show the world that pac is dirty, but he knows he can beat him and the icing on the cake would be people asking themselves after the fight, why is it that pac won all these fights, then the first fight he loses after so long is the one hat he had to test for?

Personally i wouldnt have really suspected pac till the issues with testing. To me thats more than a red flag...

[Alx.]

pacman is so good he must use peds LOL

[Skinnyez]

You mean floyd suspects pac may be on something and wants to make sure hes not when they fight. Cant really speculate on why. Maybe he has info that we dont. Maybe its not his intention to show the world that pac is dirty, but he knows he can beat him and the icing on the cake would be people asking themselves after the fight, why is it that pac won all these fights, then the first fight he loses after so long is the one hat he had to test for?

Personally i wouldnt have really suspected pac till the issues with testing. To me thats more than a red flag...

I agree, its actually pretty smart what mayweather is doing by having people question whether are not pacquaio is on something. When floyd beats and embarrases pacman then all off his accomplishments of the last few years will be questioned are forgotten and mayweather will still be remembered as the best even though he took time off.

[bayareamike]

A red flag to me is that pro boxer is trying to discredit another's accomplishments on pure speculation and accusation with no proof out of jealousy(it's obvious Floyd is/was jealous of manny with fighter of the decade and such, p4p #1). I personally think he saw manny as competition not only as an opponent but as a person that can take away a lot of floyds revenue when manny built up his cash cow status. Red flag to me is someone retiring when there's genuine top grade opponents but rather retire rather than making millions after beating de la Hoya and being a cash cow and letting the top guys fight eachother while you watch on the sideline and come back after those top guys X eachother out and to fight a blown up light weight who's never fought at that weight, as well as not living up to his contract agreement(it's in the contract, honor it.. Especially fighting someone moving up two weight classes and you still come in 2lbs over the CONTRACTED weight).

[Jim Tom]

By asking Pacquiao to take Olympic style drug testing, Floyd genuinely believes that Pacquiao is using PEDs and therefore not able to beat all the oponents he did if he were natural.

If this is true Floyd does have questions on whether or not he can beat Pacquiao, becuuse otherwise he would just fight Pacquiao with or without the tests.

What do you all think??

Floyd is a boxer and a lot of things happen behind the scenes.Rumours have been going on for a long time that Manny's on juice.What you forget is that these guys who supply juice always try to get more business by selling to other boxers,this is when things become public knowledge.Only reason why noone mentioned it in the media was because of possible lawsuits.Same thing with Margarito,he's been using cement for years and many people knew it.This was the reason Mayweather refused to fight Margarito.The Mayweathers' life is in the gyms and they know so much.

[DoubleMM]

There were rumors of PED use behind the scenes. Team Mayweather received inside information .

[Vasyl’s dad]

A red flag to me is that pro boxer is trying to discredit another's accomplishments on pure speculation and accusation with no proof out of jealousy(it's obvious Floyd is/was jealous of manny with fighter of the decade and such, p4p #1). I personally think he saw manny as competition not only as an opponent but as a person that can take away a lot of floyds revenue when manny built up his cash cow status. Red flag to me is someone retiring when there's genuine top grade opponents but rather retire rather than making millions after beating de la Hoya and being a cash cow and letting the top guys fight eachother while you watch on the sideline and come back after those top guys X eachother out and to fight a blown up light weight who's never fought at that weight, as well as not living up to his contract agreement(it's in the contract, honor it.. Especially fighting someone moving up two weight classes and you still come in 2lbs over the CONTRACTED weight).

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447917

Lets start from the top.

- father, a convicted drug dealer
- uncle and trainer, known drug user
- a family that has been in the professional boxing business for over 30 years

Now, with those facts laid out, its easy to see that this family knows the ins and outs of the professional sport from technique and form, to judges and refs, to shortcuts and doping. Its well known that they love to talk about how if you're not a boxer, " you don't know s hit". Again, for a family of professional boxers who have been in the sport for over 30 years, its quite clear they have easily cheated the sport, opponents and its fans with Floyd Mayweather Jrs. career. Floyds dad, has talked about how he knows someone in the sport who had been using steroids for quite a long time, but won't say who. I know most people wouldn't rat out their children, so why would Sr? Red flag alert.

Lets recap Floyds career. He'll quite happily tell you that hes a
5 division champion in less than 10 years, a feat that nobody in the storied history of boxing has achieved. Thats extraordinary, especially for a guy who barely won a bronze medal at the Olympics. Red flag alert.

From his beginnings as a jr. lightweight to lightweight, he had 31 fights, all victories, with 22 KOs for a KO rate of 70%. Now we all know of his hand problems, which is why, as he went higher in weight, his brittle hands couldn't produce as many knockouts. Thats interesting, seeing as how steroid use causes bones to become more fragile. Whats even more interesting is that in over 30 years as a professional boxing family, never, ever, did the Mayweathers acknowledge a need for any even playing fields, in any of their fights. For a family who knows the ins and outs of the sport, why wouldn't they dare acknowledge steroid use within the sport early in Floyds career, or before? "you're not a boxer, you don't know s hit". Red flag alert.

It seems to me, that as Floyds career went on, he was getting bigger and bulkier, while remaining one of the sports fastest. However, there was a price to pay, his hands became more brittle as the years went by. And, his head was getting bigger from the time he was 16. Red flag alert.

Now, lets move on to Floyds career above 135. Hands aren't quite as solid due to heavy use of steroids, so the KOs become less common. From 2004, to 2007, he fought, on average, twice a year. In 2007, the Mosley-Balco scandal became well known. You know what else happened in 2007? Floyd had his last fight before "retiring". Why would someone, who had just gained a newfound celebrity and popularity within the mainstream by defeating two very popular opponents, suddenly "retire" at his peak? He manhandled Oscar De La Hoya at jr. middleweight and knocked out the previously unbeaten Ricky Hatton. Pretty odd that someone would retire right after that. Red flag alert.

Could it be that Floyd needed time to detox? He did say that his body, "needed time to heal". We all know how Floyd loves to portray himself as some thug, and we all know how dudes from the street talk in code, so could that be it? He did stay out of boxing for almost 2 years before returning. But, within that time of "retirement", he was known to pal around with 50 Cent, another former drug dealer and body building type, and he did have that stint on WWE, aka, the Steroid Freaks Haven. If anyone knows how to cycle and detox, it would be professional wrestlers. Red flag alert.

Floyd comes back from "retirement" bigger and stronger than ever with added mass and bulk after the Mosley-Balco talks die down. Head is looking a bit larger as well. It was easy to see how much larger he was than his opponent Juan Manuel Marquez, who is only an inch shorter than Floyd. But it was the body mass that showed the discrepancy in size. Add to the fact that Floyd refused to give a fight night weight, and you have a su****ious character in the ring. He was easily a middleweight that night with all of the added muscle. Red flag alert.

For someone who supposedly would like to prove they are not using any PEDs,

why won't Floyd agree to year round random drug testing since he wants an "even playing field"?

That to me, sounds like a Red flag alert.


I know lots of weed smokers who will agree to take a drug test any time, but when you mention, "year round random drug testing"

"OH NO".


I think since Floyd isn't on a testing schedule right now,

hes probably been roiding after the Mosley bout.

Facts
Beat up his baby momma in a fit of rage.
Put up a racist tirade against Manny Pacquiao in a fit of rage.
Poked a security guard in the face in a fit of rage.


Red flag alert.
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