How do you rate tysons ko victory over larry holmes ?

[crold1]

People dont give tyson the credit he deserves for this fight imo.people say holmes was shot yet 4 years later he beat an undefeated ray mercer handily then 6 months later gave a prime holyfield hell for 12 rounds,plus the fact he is the only man to ko holmes.
Holmes's jaw was granite,he took the best shavers had and got back to his feet.
If only tyson didnt lose his head,and the people around him who kept him in check.the man was a perfect fighting machine in his rooney days

Given what Holmes would do later, and that it's his only stop loss, it merits high. However, the layoff of Holmes coming in and the relatively short camp he had to work the rust off take away from the win a bit.

It was a solid crossroads win no matter how sliced, but open to wild under and over rating both ways.

[Poet682006]

Exactly, Tyson was already on a downward spiral before he lost to Douglas (who don't forget was down for longer than ten in the fight).
Given the right people around him Mike would have retired unbeaten and would be now regarded as the greatest Heavyweight of all time. Of this I have no doubt.

Nuthuggery at it's most blatant.

[Poet682006]

People dont give tyson the credit he deserves for this fight imo.people say holmes was shot yet 4 years later he beat an undefeated ray mercer handily then 6 months later gave a prime holyfield hell for 12 rounds,plus the fact he is the only man to ko holmes.
Holmes's jaw was granite,he took the best shavers had and got back to his feet.
If only tyson didnt lose his head,and the people around him who kept him in check.the man was a perfect fighting machine in his rooney days

This subject has already been addressed in the following thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502458

[nomadman]

For sure, Iron Mike was helluva puncher.

Though, Tyson opponents who've also met Shavers and Foreman say that their punches hurt a lot more.
The devastating effects Tyson's punches had, they refer to his speed. They never saw them coming.

A punch which hurts more doesn't necessarily mean it's doing more damage.

[nomadman]

For me, prime Holmes was 1978-1983.

He just happeened to meet a prime Tyson in 1988.

So for me the win is ok not earth shattering or great.

I feel like you have to look at when they fought, rather than what box rec says.

For me, his Cooney fight was Holmes masterpiece.

I'd go with this. Holmes wasn't at his best, conditioning wise, and ring rusty, when he fought Tyson, but as later fights showed his age shouldn't be held up as a factor in the loss.

[nomadman]

Lets not forget that Holmes took the fight at short notice, even given that Tyson would have won if they were both at their peak age or condition.

Tyson at his peak would have beaten any heavyweight in history other than Ali who would have danced around him and jabbed him to death for 15 rounds.
And please don't mention those big russians, Tyson would have got under their long range jabs and knocked them out with upper cuts, easy, no problem, too quick, too fast, too strong, too skillful, too much class and no steroids either, Mike was all natural power.

How do you know this for certain?

[Poet682006]

I'd go with this. Holmes wasn't at his best, conditioning wise, and ring rusty, when he fought Tyson, but as later fights showed his age shouldn't be held up as a factor in the loss.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502458

[The Noose]

This subject has already been addressed in the following thread:

Almost every subject has been discussed before.


Anyway, i think it was one of tysons best wins. Holmes was well past it, and rusty, but still showed ring smarts, still had a great chin, and was able to frustrate Tyson for a while.

Tyson never really had a truly great win. But he showed in this fight all it takes from him is the right punch at the right time. He also showed he wasnt just a KO boxer, but he would out work his opponents.

Tysons career is full of 'what if's' and excuses, but they are valid imo.

[betmen]

Homles wasnt peak, still world class victory.

man, that ****star in your avi, who is she??
is she have nice rear??? she so cute.

[check hook]

It's sad the midget's best win was over a 39 year old washed up inactive for 2 years ali wannabe

Tyson has fought better opposition than Wlad and Vitali combined, so you're really not making a case for their greatness with these ridiculous comments.