So, does Pacquiao hit hard or not in the higher divisions ?

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  • Tiozzo
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mayabang
    STFU TS, didn't you hear/read what Floyd said? Pac has been knocking out his opponents since he moved to welter, now can you imagine Floyd going up to Heavyweights knocking out the Klitschkos, Arreola, Haye, Adamek??? Well?? That's how BEASTLY Pac has become!!!!! That's fucking su****ious if you ask me!!!!
    the comparison is ******ed, I use my judgment unlike you

    Pacquiao wasn't a grown man when he was a flyweight

    so the real leap is from 126 to 154

    that's 28 pounds

    Floyd, himself, has already gone from 130 to 154

    that's 24 pounds

    of course, Mayweather hasn't carried his power, but him comparing Pacquiao's weight leap to going to heavyweight is a joke

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      #12
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      He definitely hits hard at 147. And speed is power. Especially when you don't see the punch.
      speed is power is a misused and misleading, overused saying in boxing

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        #13
        Originally posted by Tiozzo
        speed is power is a misused and misleading, overused saying in boxing
        Genaro Hernadez said this about Shane Mosley. Hopkins said this about Roy Jones Jr. And many other pro fighters have said this also. I'll take their word over yours any day. Or better yet, which will do more damage? A bullet fired from a gun or a bullet thrown at you? A car hitting you at 15 mph or a car hitting you at 50 MPH?

        I'll wait for your answer.
        Last edited by joseph5620; 09-08-2011, 03:41 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Tiozzo
          speed is power is a misused and misleading, overused saying in boxing
          speed definitely is power, because you can't block all those shots coming at different angles. assuming the guy stands in front of you ,or comes at you.

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            #15
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            Genaro Hernadez said this about Shane Mosley. Hopkins said this about Roy Jones Jr. And many other pro fighters have said this also. I'll take their word over yours any day. Or better yet, which will do more damage? A bullet fired from a gun or a bullet thrown at you? A car hitting you at 15 mph or a car hitting you at 50 MPH?

            I'll wait for your answer.
            the fastest fighters ever were featherfisted or average at best

            Whitaker, Taylor, Byrd, Pep

            and Genaro Hernandez didn't fight Shane Mosley

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              #16
              Pac aint no classic KO-artist, but he hits hard enough to make Juan drink his own soda again

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              • Tiozzo
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                #17
                Originally posted by Leohappy
                speed definitely is power, because you can't block all those shots coming at different angles. assuming the guy stands in front of you ,or comes at you.
                you have just proven it is a metaphoric saying

                speed is a strength, in a literal sense, and power in a metaphoric sense

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tiozzo
                  the fastest fighters ever were featherfisted or average at best

                  Whitaker, Taylor, Byrd, Pep

                  and Genaro Hernandez didn't fight Shane Mosley




                  Hernandez sparred with Mosley a number of times. And Mosley broke his nose in one session leading to Hernadez fight with Delahoya. Learn what you're talking about before making such a claim. And I never said speed makes a high KO percentage. I said it generates power. Especially if you don't see it coming. That's common sense.



                  I'm also sure those "feather fist" fighters you mentioned would take you out without a problem.


                  Last edited by joseph5620; 09-08-2011, 04:02 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by joseph5620
                    Hernandez sparred with Mosley a number of times. And Mosley broke his nose in one session leading to Hernadez fight with Delahoya. Learn what you're talking about before making such a claim. And I never said speed makes a high KO percentage. I said it generates power. Especially if you don't see it coming. That's common sense.



                    I'm also sure those "feather fist" fighters you mentioned would take you out without a problem.


                    oh, that's supposed to be an argument to support your claim ?



                    :boobies:

                    Mosley is a hard puncher period, speed doesn't necessarily generate power if there is no mass behind the speed

                    I might add that slow azz Foreman and Shavers are perhaps the 2 hardest punchers ever
                    Last edited by Tiozzo; 09-08-2011, 04:12 PM.

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                      #20
                      Id say he packs a good punch

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